Jim, I run the 1515 1Y/Turnigy 180/4S2P in a H&M 31" Shovelnose hydro ; have run a 642, M445 tip-cupped & now run an M545 with good results. For max speed you may try one of Mark Sholund's [Props 4-U] H-5's or H-6's with his magic touch - tell him you want one like he made for Mark & me. Probably safest with a 642 with 1P. On 2P you can go bigger & still have good runtime. Both Mark and myself tune for racing so longer runtimes [ over 2.5 min's] aren't a thing.
Thanks, I was digging through my prop inventory last night and found a M445 and a M447(think I remember that right) I could also try. I am going to buy Mark's H6 and give that a try as well. That should keep me entertained for awhile.
My first boat had the 150 cable with the leapord motor but my new one has 187. I think 150 is fine if your sticking to P spec .
Mark
Thanks, Mark... I'm going to go with .187, so I can switch the boat between P-Limited and P... Have a 1521 1.5D and Hydra 240 that are currently not being used for anything. I'll just leave the 240 in there and switch motor. LOVE that this boat seems to handle the full P-Power so well...
Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."
I am suprised to how well it handles. People at the race including Jeff himself said dont run the boat in open with all those gas boats. It will never survive the big rollers and chop. Well Tyler said I'll drive it if you let me so I said sure just dont let anyone run you over and break my new boat. I knew the 1527 would be over kill but its what I had in the drawer looking for a home so thats why i have that motor in the boat.
Tony or Mark or Jeff... Are you running a .187 sized driveline in that boat, or is it .150? Or???
Darin, my boat was designed/setup to demo the ease of setting up a P-Spec version with the likely use of all the UL-1 components. Hence, it has the .150 cable. I have a .078 wire drive on the bench waiting for an possible/eventual conversion to P . Funny thing is that I just love running it as P-Spec - so stable and driveable and fast that I just may leave it as is ; maybe bump up to a SC with adjustable timing.
2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
'11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono
I have a .078 wire drive on the bench waiting for an possible/eventual conversion to P . Funny thing is that I just love running it as P-Spec - so stable and driveable and fast that I just may leave it as is ; maybe bump up to a SC with adjustable timing.
Tony,
I've decided that I'm kind of done using wire in most of my heat racing boats. I'll save it for the SAWs or 2-Lap stuff. Just been too much of a hassle for me most of the time. Might change my mind later, but cable is just so much simpler to deal with and way less tempermental...
I know, I know... I keep wavering back and forth, but after the hassles using wire in my P-Limited Hydro, and a lost VERY nice H10 (sorry Brian), I switched to a .150 cable and it's SOOO much simpler to deal with, with little/no loss in speed. It's all a matter of using the correct lube. Have to lube it for EVERY run, but otherwise, it's been a lot easier.
We're going SOOOO fast with our P-Limited setups that there really isn't much of a need to go to full P. However, it's nice to know that it can be done with the same hull. Will make traveling to bigger races a little easier.
Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."
Darin, good points & I agree; cables are trustworthy with little hassle factor. Only reason I picked up the .078 is that , in the event of a bigger motor, a .187 wont fit in the 3/16 stuffing tube now on my spec setup. Actually I put a wire drive & ball bearing strut on the Vegas just to try out something new. Trouble free except for some strut bearing issues. I stayed away from set-screw collets , never trusted them. the MV has an Octura style that Jeff W. made the inner grip-piece( I believe), but my latest collet is bagged as a complete Octura-made piece & looks very nice. Time will tell, I guess.
2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
'11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono
Darin, good points & I agree; cables are trustworthy with little hassle factor. Only reason I picked up the .078 is that , in the event of a bigger motor, a .187 wont fit in the 3/16 stuffing tube now on my spec setup.
OH, That makes a ton of sense then... I forgot that a .078 will work in that existing stuffing tube. I'd do the same thing in that case. Nice to have THAT option as well.
I am a firm believer, however, that when using a wire, it's important to use BEARINGS in the strut. Bushings work, but because of the nature of the wire bending, it forces the stub-shaft up into the bushings and I think that causes a little extra drag and slop. I've found bearings in this case work to stabilize the stub-shaft much better. Bit of a pain to maintain, but much smoother and less "draggy"...
Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."
My first boat had the 150 cable with the leapord motor but my new one has 187. I think 150 is fine if your sticking to P spec .
Mark
Mark - Are you running the 0.187" flex in a 1/4" strut tube? Reason I ask is that I'm running that set-up in the Vegas (with no liner). The driveline runs free as a bird and it's dead on concentric, but it makes some strange noises when you accelerate if you forget to lube between runs!
When I placed my order with Jeff about 4 weeks ago, he also asked what other hull designs and length may be of interest to FE boaters as most of his stuff is gas orientated and he perceives the FE market as a new venture........suggestions?
I have always run a teflon liner tube since I got started in boats 15 years ago. I see no reason to change now. I dont get why people dont want to run them.
Jeff is interested in making a couple of more boats. He thought maybe a cracker box next but after watching the Jersy skiffs run at the last race I voted for making one of those. There definintely more entertaining than the cracker boxs. If he gets enough interest he will make one otherwise I think he is going to make a rigger next. I know Jeff would like to hear everybodys thoughts on what they would like to see next.
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