Which 2.4 system ?

[bigpapa]

My FHSS were i run has alot of wifi near the lake that i live in front of, the airtronics has performed perfect were the specktrum glitched all the time, no regrets with the airtronics,

[BILL OXIDEAN]

i dont think there is a human alive that could physically tell the difference in speed.
you hear people all the time on hifi equipment picking flaws in brands they dont use,but these flaws are only picked up with electronic equipment never by human ear

Again, you would be VERY suprised. my system is NOTICABLY faster as I said, my mgr had to warn me upon receipt of the system.

I beg to differ on that, I believe there isn't a human alive who COULDN'T tell the difference LoL.. Try one, and you'll see. especially when paired with high speed digital servos, and a spread spektrum optimized speed controller.

It feels like the boat is wired to your transmitter
Your laptimes will improve as well as recovery skills

[BILL OXIDEAN]

My FHSS were i run has alot of wifi near the lake that i live in front of, the airtronics has performed perfect were the specktrum glitched all the time, no regrets with the airtronics,

Amen Big Papa!
FHSS is amazing, I've NEVER lost signal with FHSS-3

They took time through testing and development to come up with the strongest signal possible.

[Gerwin Brommer]

Well, NEVER loosing the signal is awesome, I admit.
But : responsetimes etc etc :
The limit is the HUMAN responsetime.
Spektrum, Fasst etc etc, the human response is the limit, the TX/RX's are always fast enough, IMO.

Please understand me well, I'm not saying FASST or Spektrum is better , but for BOATS we don't need
anything better than what we already have.
Never loosing signal/having no more glitches, that would be great.

It might even be that our TX's are too sensitive already ! How many of us use 100% of the steeringrange on their TX's ?
If i'm running my fast and large boat at topspeed, the last thing I want is 100% rudder.........

[BILL OXIDEAN]

Human response time is actually not the limit. Once the human responds, its up to the radio how fast things will respond. Yes, human input is determinal of the outcome, but once you've given the input, its up to the signal and model how it responds.

A human that responds slow and is used to a slow responding system will benefit from a system that responds faster period. The faster responding system picks up the slack of the slow system.

These features are not gimmicks, people are hauling tail and getting the advantage with these products.

I'd love to hear someone get on a plane chatboard and preach to the 3d fliers that latency dosen't matter and a better responding radio makes no difference LoL..

I'm not arguing by any means, I just think light needs to be shed about the beauty of the latest radio technology. Guys are ASTOUNDED with the performance leap with motors batteries and speedos, but few take advantage of radio tech.

I've played with exp and arc and gotten PHENOMINAL results
As of right now my models feel like I'm running them on mind control. The response is SO precise I'm lovin' it and can't wait to try the new Airtronics system

[Gerwin Brommer]

You are sponsored by them ?
:-)




Blinking an eye takes 200milliseconds.
IF YOU decide to steer to the right and your finger STARTS to move the stick, how many milliseconds later will your RX react ? and mine ?
I think both systems are too fast :-)
a 100 % glitch-free system and never loose signal again, THAT would be the main benefit.

I agree, the AIRTRONICS will be great for 3d pilots and indoor-electro-cars, but for boats there is no NEED.

I don't want a boat that RESPONDS before I can EVEN NOTICE it has responded !!!

[BILL OXIDEAN]

You are sponsored by them ?
:-)




Blinking an eye takes 200milliseconds.
IF YOU decide to steer to the right and your finger STARTS to move the stick, how many milliseconds later will your RX react ? and mine ?
I think both systems are too fast :-)
a 100 % glitch-free system and never loose signal again, THAT would be the main benefit.

I agree, the AIRTRONICS will be great for 3d pilots and indoor-electro-cars, but for boats there is no NEED.

I don't want a boat that RESPONDS before I can EVEN NOTICE it has responded !!!

I totally see your point, and once before figured the same, but after actually running it, I was sold. Its so much better of an experience. Once with N-1 mono if the bow got too high it was over, but now somehow I can get out of the throttle in time to recover.

I threw in the towel thinking the boat was going over because getting out of the throttle drops the rear end allowing the bow to rise more

Not so much

Through a fast responding system I've learned that I can catch it! (which saved my butt at the nats)

In racing, we have many close calls, a faster responding radio can DEFINITELY make the difference between a close call and a DNF

I am indeed a proud Airtronics driver.
I'm not endorsing a product, I'm sharing with others the amazing difference
I've experienced in these radios.

Have a great day!

[bigpapa]

i've has fassst and specktrum and the NEW FHSS AIRTRONICS STUFF IS THE BEST I'VE EVER USED, TKS AIRTRONICS YOU ROCK..................

[bigpapa]

well said bill i have to agree totally.................

[sundog]

I've been using an Aitrtronics MX3 - FHSS for about a year now and have never had any issues with it. Easy to program, easy to tweak. The receivers are pricey ($90) is my only gripe. But that might be the norm anymore.

[bigpapa]

thats what i run also awsome awsome system 4 sure............

[Gerwin Brommer]

Bill,

Have a nice day to !

[BILL OXIDEAN]

I've been using an Aitrtronics MX3 - FHSS for about a year now and have never had any issues with it. Easy to program, easy to tweak. The receivers are pricey ($90) is my only gripe. But that might be the norm anymore.

I've been hearing that one.. (pricey rcvr)
I'm gonna' send 'em that feedback

[sailr]

The price of the receivers is the only reason I don't use Airtronics exclusively.

I've been hearing that one.. (pricey rcvr)
I'm gonna' send 'em that feedback

[Bill-SOCAL]

Bill - Can you please explain the differences between the 2.4 GHz spread spectrum implementation schemes used by Futaba, Spektrum/JR, and Airtronics and why you feel that the Airtronics methodology is the better solution?

Also, you have made statements about the system latency of the new Airtronics radios. Can you provide any data that supports your statements? I am also interested in knowing your opinion on latency versus resolution and how that effects the overall response of the radio.