Fiberglass or Carbon Fiber?

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  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #16
    Originally posted by Gerwin Brommer
    Westbeach is right !

    No matter what you try, epoxy does NOT stick to abs.
    Using CA helps to let the CF stay in place, but you need epoxy to make the cf solid.
    In fact you're making a "hard skin" inside the abs hull.

    Unless : use a brush and "paint" the whole inside of the hull with CA.
    That leaves a nice surface for the epoxy to stick.....................
    yes hello!
    scuff the abs, use CA to hold the CF, then use an epoxy on top of that..
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    • G Doggett
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 446

      #17
      The guys are right, the only thing that will stick to ABS long term is CA.
      Check with Randy at BBS.
      You need to completely cover the inside of your hull with CA using a brush, and then lay the carbon fibre inside. Make sure you press it down to make full contact and let it cure.
      If some areas don't seem to have been glued properly flow some CA onto the carbon fibre so that it will flow through down to the ABS and again press it down until cured.
      It's a bitch of a job, you will glue your fingers to the hull several times and the fumes will make your eyes water !
      Finally when it has all cured, brush on a thin layer of polyester or epoxy to stiffen the carbon fibre.
      Bingo - you now have carbon fibre hull with an ABS skin on the outside !
      Graham.

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      • NitroVal
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 423

        #18
        I dont know why, but I totally missed the ABS part in the first post
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        • Brushless55
          Creator
          • Oct 2008
          • 9488

          #19
          CA on the fingers, not fun..
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          • norbique
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 356

            #20
            I agree, not to hijack the thread but what are you using to get CA off your skin?!
            Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.
            - Mark Twain

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            • Rumdog
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2009
              • 6453

              #21
              Acetone woks well. Nail polish remover.

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              • norbique
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 356

                #22
                thanks!
                Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.
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                • boater76
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 505

                  #23
                  Ok. So use Ca or an adhesive to apply the cf at first then when that is done drying use epoxy to coat the cf and you have the stiffness then. Correct?

                  Ken

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                  • Himalaya
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 251

                    #24
                    Another factor to consider: hidden antenna.

                    With FG hulls your boat can have no visible antenna if you use a 2.4G radio. That is not possible for carbon fiber hulls for its electrically conductive and thus shielding.


                    Also GPS is hard for a full carbon hull.
                    Last edited by Himalaya; 11-03-2009, 01:57 AM.

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Himalaya
                      Another factor to consider: hidden antenna.

                      With FG hulls your boat can have no visible antenna if you use a 2.4G radio. That is not possible for carbon fiber hulls for its electrically conductive and thus shielding.

                      What!
                      how about Kevlar?
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                      • Rumdog
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6453

                        #26
                        I have had 0 issues with my tactic 2.4 ghz system in CF reinforced hulls. A full carbon hull may be a different story.

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                        • Gerwin Brommer
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 918

                          #27
                          Kevlar is even better ! ( IF you have a kevlar-scissor !! )

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                          • boater76
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 505

                            #28
                            I can use denatured alcohol to thin the expoxy out to flow better right?

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                            • sailr
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 6927

                              #29
                              lots of misinformation floating around in this thread! Jeeez.
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                              • wolf IV
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 961

                                #30
                                Originally posted by sailr
                                lots of misinformation floating around in this thread! Jeeez.
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-npTLBHefY

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