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  • boater76
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 505

    #1

    Fiberglass or Carbon Fiber?

    I've got an abs hydro I wan't to strengthen a bit, but not sure what to use.

    Ken
  • NitroVal
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 423

    #2
    Carbon fiber is way stronger and lighter than fiberglass. Use it whenever possible. Price is the only drawback
    The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
    Now with 540s- 62mph
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    • boater76
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 505

      #3
      What do you use to glue it?

      Ken

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      • NitroVal
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 423

        #4
        You can use pretty much any type of resin or epoxy..
        Shoot these guys and email http://www.shopmaninc.com/index.html
        The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
        Now with 540s- 62mph
        New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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        • westbeach
          OSE Rocks!
          • Feb 2008
          • 951

          #5
          Sorry, but i beg to differ! You can't use any sort of resin or epoxy to to mat down your CF or FG sheets to an ABS hull. It won't stick no matter how much you scuff up that hull. You need to use CA and mat down the cloth with some 3M Spray adheasive.

          Originally posted by NitroVal
          You can use pretty much any type of resin or epoxy..
          Shoot these guys and email http://www.shopmaninc.com/index.html
          HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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          • NitroVal
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 423

            #6
            I stand corrected then. I was under the impression if you used epoxy in a thin enough state, it will seep through the weaves and bond the same as fiberglass.
            The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
            Now with 540s- 62mph
            New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9488

              #7
              Originally posted by westbeach
              Sorry, but i beg to differ! You can't use any sort of resin or epoxy to to mat down your CF or FG sheets to an ABS hull. It won't stick no matter how much you scuff up that hull. You need to use CA and mat down the cloth with some 3M Spray adheasive.

              Uh, spray adheasive?
              spray adheasive will flex
              epoxy would be a better choice IMO
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              • westbeach
                OSE Rocks!
                • Feb 2008
                • 951

                #8
                3M Super 77 spray adheasive! What are you talking about? Spray adheasive will flex?? Your hull is the one flexing. Your reinforcing it to stop or minimize the flexing. Suit yourself, try whatever you want Just giving you advice on the proven methods. But if your insistent on using epoxy then why did you ask??

                Originally posted by Brushless55
                Uh, spray adheasive?
                spray adheasive will flex
                epoxy would be a better choice IMO
                HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #9
                  Originally posted by westbeach
                  3M Super 77 spray adheasive! What are you talking about? Spray adheasive will flex?? Your hull is the one flexing. Your reinforcing it to stop or minimize the flexing. Suit yourself, try whatever you want Just giving you advice on the proven methods. But if your insistent on using epoxy then why did you ask??

                  Dude chill out, this is an open forum...
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • westbeach
                    OSE Rocks!
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 951

                    #10
                    Dude, If I chilled out even more, I'd be an Eskimo!
                    HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #11
                      You need an epoxy or resin to cause the CF to become rigid and strong
                      3m will stay flex able and so will the CF..
                      we add Glass or CF to help make the boat rigid and stronger
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                      • westbeach
                        OSE Rocks!
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 951

                        #12
                        Seriously, please ask Randy at BBY racing. Or go to his website. And look under his forum, he has done a thread on reinforcing ABS hulls. Epoxy will not stick to ABS.

                        Originally posted by Brushless55
                        You need an epoxy or resin to cause the CF to become rigid and strong
                        3m will stay flex able and so will the CF..
                        we add Glass or CF to help make the boat rigid and stronger
                        HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #13
                          220 grit works
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • westbeach
                            OSE Rocks!
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 951

                            #14
                            HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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                            • Gerwin Brommer
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 918

                              #15
                              Westbeach is right !

                              No matter what you try, epoxy does NOT stick to abs.
                              Using CA helps to let the CF stay in place, but you need epoxy to make the cf solid.
                              In fact you're making a "hard skin" inside the abs hull.

                              Unless : use a brush and "paint" the whole inside of the hull with CA.
                              That leaves a nice surface for the epoxy to stick.....................

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