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  • exotica
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 159

    #61
    ...the second one I have is for the SUPPO ESC range...I cantcopy and paste the Hi Model one I have...

    SUPPO™ Speed Controller Programming Instructions
    For Advance programmable Normal Aircraft/Boat ESC
    50A/70A/80A/100A/125A/200A ESC

    Important Note: these ESCs are all Opto, without BEC to your Receiver, you
    need extra power source for your receiver. You can use a UBEC, a voltage regulator, or
    extra batteries as the power source for your receiver. If you hear the music tone repeat
    again and again for more than 3 times, you may need to check your power source to the
    receiver.

    ��Phrases 1 Enter programming Mode
    1. Connect your motor and receiver to the speed controller, but do not connect the
    battery yet.
    2. Turn on your transmitter and move the throttle stick to the full throttle position (full
    up). Please Note: Most Futaba transmitters have the throttle channel reversed by
    default.
    3. Connect your battery and the controller will initialize with a musical tone.
    Phrases 2 Programming
    After 3 seconds, the controller will start beeping a sequence of tones – a musical tone
    followed by one or more beeps. Each sequence represents a parameter that you can program
    and is repeated 3 times. The parameters are:
    ♪—  Tone + 1
    Beep
    Options 1. Cell Type and No. of Cells
    ♪— —  Tone + 2
    Beeps
    Options 2. Throttle Setting
    ♪— — —  Tone + 3
    Beeps
    Options 3. Brake Setting
    ♪— — — —  Tone + 4
    Beeps
    Options 4. Direction and Cutoff Type
    ♪— — — — —  Tone + 5
    Beeps
    Options 5. Timing Mode
    ♪— — — — — - 
    
     

    Option 6. PWM setting
    Step 1. Starting, Enter Sub-optins. When you hear the sequence for the parameter you wish to
    program, move the throttle stick to the Center Position to Enter Sub-options.
    The controller will then start beeping a Morse code sequence of short and long beeps
    representing the possible options you may choose for the selected parameter. See table 2 for
    a list of all programmable options. Each option sequence is repeated 3 times.
    Step 2. Select and save, the select the option, move the throttle stick back to the
    2
    Full-up-position., When you hear the sequence for the option you wish to select. The
    controller will then save the selected option, and sound a long beep as a confirmation. It
    then goes back to the beginning of the programming sequence (phrases 2).
    Step 3. Complete programming and exit programming mode. Setup all the parameters you
    need to change. When complete, move the throttle stick to the Lowest (Down) Position.
    The controller will save all options and re-initialize in normal running mode so you can start
    your motor.
    The table below summarizes the various programming options for each parameter:
    Option 1.1 Cell Type and Number of Cells
    

    Only for 50A/60A/ 100A-LV / 200A-LV
    (LV as 2S-7S)
    • — 1 Short + 1 Long NiMh/NiCD Auto Cell Count - 0.8V/Cell
    Cutoff Voltage *
    • — — 1 Short + 2 Long 7S Li-Po (25.9V) – 21V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — 1 Short + 3 Long 6S Li-Po (22.2V) –18V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — 1 Short + 4 Long 5S Li-Po (18.5V) – 15V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — —1 Short + 5 Long 4S Li-Po (14.8V) – 12V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — — — 1 Short + 6 Long 3S Li-Po (11.1V) – 9V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — — — — 1 Short + 7 Long 2S Li-Po (7.4V) – 6V Cutoff Voltage
    Option 1.2 Cell Type and Number of Cells
    

    Only for 70A (MV as 4S-8S)
    • — 1 Short + 1 Long NiMh/NiCD Auto Cell Count - 0.8V/Cell
    Cutoff Voltage *
    • — — 1 Short + 2 Long 8S Li-Po (29.6V) – 24V Cutoff Voltage**
    • — — — 1 Short + 3 Long 7S Li-Po (25.9V) – 21V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — 1 Short + 4 Long 6S Li-Po (22.2V) – 18V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — —1 Short + 5 Long 5S Li-Po (18.5V) – 15V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — — — 1 Short + 6 Long 4S Li-Po (14.8V) – 12V Cutoff Voltage
    Option 1.3 Cell Type and Number of Cells
    

    Only for 80A-HV/100A-HV (HV as 6S-10S)
    • — 1 Short + 1 Long NiMh/NiCD Auto Cell Count - 0.8V/Cell
    Cutoff Voltage *
    • — — 1 Short + 2 Long 10S Li-Po (37V) – 30V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — 1 Short + 3 Long 9S Li-Po (33.3V) – 27V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — 1 Short + 4 Long 8S Li-Po (29.6V) – 24V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — —1 Short + 5 Long 7S Li-Po (25.9V) – 21V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — — — 1 Short + 6 Long 6S Li-Po (22.2V) – 18V Cutoff Voltage
    3
    Option 1.4 Cell Type and Number of Cells
    

    Only for 80A-12S/200A-12S (UHV as
    8S-12S)
    • — 1 Short + 1 Long NiMh/NiCD Auto Cell Count - 0.8V/Cell
    Cutoff Voltage *
    • — — 1 Short + 2 Long 12S Li-Po (45.4V) – 39V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — 1 Short + 3 Long 11S Li-Po (41.7V) – 33V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — 1 Short + 4 Long 10S Li-Po (37V) – 30V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — —1 Short + 5 Long 9S Li-Po (33.3V) – 27V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — — — 1 Short + 6 Long 8S Li-Po (29.6V) – 24V Cutoff Voltage
    Option 1.5 Cell Type and Number of Cells
    

    Only for100A-SHV-15S / 200A-SHV-15S
    (SHV-15S LiPo)
    • — 1 Short + 1 Long NiMh/NiCD Auto Cell Count - 0.8V/Cell
    Cutoff Voltage *
    • — — 1 Short + 2 Long 15S Li-Po (45.4V) – 39V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — 1 Short + 3 Long 14S Li-Po (41.7V) – 33V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — 1 Short + 4 Long 13S Li-Po (37V) – 30V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — —1 Short + 5 Long 12S Li-Po (33.3V) – 27V Cutoff Voltage
    • — — — — — — 1 Short + 6 Long 11S Li-Po (29.6V) – 24V Cutoff Voltage
    Option 2. Throttle Setting
    
    — —
    •• — 2 Short + 1 Long Auto Throttle Range *
    •• — — 2 Short + 2 Long 1.1ms to 1.8ms
    •• — — — 2 Short + 3 Long Hard Acc*
    •• — — — — 2 Short + 4 Long Soft Acc
    Option 3. Brake Setting
    
    — — —
    ••• — 3 Short + 1 Long No Brake
    ••• — — 3 Short + 2 Long Soft Brake*
    ••• — — — 3 Short + 3 Long Medium Brake
    ••• — — — — 3 Short + 4 Long Hard Brake
    Option 4. Direction and Cutoff Type
    
    — — — —
    •••• — 4 Short + 1 Long Clockwise Rotation *
    •••• — — 4 Short + 2 Long Counterclockwise Rotation
    •••• — — — 4 Short + 3 Long Soft Cutoff
    •••• — — — — 4 Short + 4 Long Hard Cutoff *
    4
    Option 5. Timing Mode Setting
    
    — — — — —
    ••••• — 5 Short + 1 Long 1º - For 2-4 Pole Inrunner Motors *
    ••••• — — 5 Short + 2 Long 7º - For 6-8 Pole Motors
    ••••• — — — 5 Short + 3 Long 15º- For 10-14 Pole Outrunner Motors
    ••••• — — — — 5 Short + 4 Long 30º - For 10-14 Pole High-RPM Outrunner
    Motors
    Option 6.
    Pulse Width Modulation(PWM) Setting
    
    — — — — — —
    •••••• — 6 Short + 1 Long 8KHz – For low RPM and low pole count motors *
    •••••• — — 6 Short + 2 Long 16KHz – For most out runner motors
    * is Default Setting

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    • domwilson
      Moderator
      • Apr 2007
      • 4408

      #62
      Originally posted by exotica
      ...now ive just run some numbers through the FE Calc based on the following set up...
      FDM NEMESIS 9XL, 2X 2S 5500MAH LIPOS (GIVING ME 11000MHA AT 14.8V) MYSTERY 200AMP ESC, OCTURA X445 the calc says...

      AMP DRAW 112
      VOLTS 13.92
      RUN TIME 5.88MINS
      EST SPEED 43.73
      EFFICIENCY 90%

      ...can anyone check for me and let me know if these figures are correct??
      Are your batts in paralell or series? 2 X 2S1P @ 5500 mah will give you 14.8v @ 5500 mah.
      Government Moto:
      "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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      • exotica
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 159

        #63
        ...Hi Dom, I have the positive from the ESC running into the left lipo and the negative into the right lipo...I have then run a 12 guage wire from the negative left lipo to the positive of the right lipo. Is this par or series and what is the right way to type this out??

        I think it should be 4s2p which should give me 14.8v at 11000mah or is it 2s1p in series will give me this??? Still trying to get my head around it all lol and i need to stop editing this post....LOLOLOLLLOL

        ...okay from what im reading now im lead to believe it is 4s1p in series based on what ive written above. now is this 14.v at 5500mah or at 11000mah...someone help before i loose the rest of my hair!!!!!!
        Last edited by exotica; 05-12-2010, 09:22 PM.

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        • domwilson
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 4408

          #64
          This might help you to understand a little better... http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/lipo.php
          Government Moto:
          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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          • exotica
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 159

            #65
            lol Dom found that...and remembered where it was, dont forget ive been away from this forum for nearly 6 months...thats a lifetime for a newby to FE boats!!! Now am I right in saying that two lipos wired as described in my last post is in series therefore you would treat that as being a 4s1p set up and at 5500mah??

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            • domwilson
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 4408

              #66
              Yepper!
              Government Moto:
              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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              • exotica
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 159

                #67
                ...woohoo progress....dam newbies lol. Now let me go back to the Fe Calc and see what it says.....

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                • exotica
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 159

                  #68
                  ...now my FEcalc has developed a runtime error dam it.....any suggestions folks????????

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                  • domwilson
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4408

                    #69
                    Did you just update or replace the FECalc.txt file? If so, you'll have to go back to it. Change the motor, batteries etc. to something common. Then switch back to the new file. It should work then.
                    Government Moto:
                    "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                    • exotica
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 159

                      #70
                      ...sorted had registry issues which i have now fixed....

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                      • exotica
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 159

                        #71
                        ...now that ive got Fecalc running again I have added some more data to the .txt file for my motor and battery set up. The figures it gives me now are...

                        RPM 23,462
                        AMPS 108.53
                        VOLTS 13.69
                        POWER INPUT 1,486
                        POWER OUTPUT 1,342
                        EST RUN TIME 3.04
                        EST SPEED 42.94MPH
                        EFFICIENCY 90.34%
                        HULL TYPE CAT
                        HULL ATTITUDE NORMAL
                        OCTURA X445 PROP
                        MYSTERY 200A PENTIUM ESC
                        INTELLECT 4S1P 5500MAH LIPOS
                        FDM 9XL 2 POLE BRUSHLESS MOTOR


                        ...how does this now look top all of you? It kinda all makes sence and appears to be a good indication as to what she will do on the water at WOT.

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                        • exotica
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 159

                          #72
                          ...here is a quick wiring diagram I created as to how I have connected the battery up to the ESC.

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                          • exotica
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 159

                            #73
                            ...here are two more pics of the final set up of the electrics inside the hull, as you can see I have elevated the ESC from the bottom of the boat to aid it from not getting any water or mositure on it. Ive done this by cutting a spray paint can in half and using that as the base. You should also be able to make out the water cooler added to the underside of the ESC.



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                            • Heath M
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 806

                              #74
                              Looking good Kosta, the battery wiring is spot on for a 4s setup.
                              Brisbane,QLD, Aussie

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                              • domwilson
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4408

                                #75
                                Looks good. Is that where you are placing your batts? Mine tends to run better with the batts closer to the transom.
                                Government Moto:
                                "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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