Had an interesting experience

[Speed3]

Leopard 4092 1730kv 3d, leopard 4092 2080kv 2.5d, tp 4060 1950kv 5d.

The everything does fell so cool that I does wonder if the temperature went higher.

Atleast that is the case with the leopards. The tp motor was slightly warm. Maybe 100f degrees. After over a minute of hard up and down running.

[TRUCKPULL]

An other newbie that knows everything.
It seems that every thread you start goes the same way.
Time for my ignore list.

Good Bye
Larry

[Speed3]

https://youtu.be/whPfJU-GB60

Just posting the link with the leopard 4092 2080kv on 4s if anyone interested in seeing it.

[Speed3]

https://youtu.be/Y7qXfGVhdlU

A video of the revolt on 4s with the stock ESC, the stock aquacraft 1800kv and an octura m545.

This video is an older video taped in the same location as the one with the leopard 4092 2080kv on 4s and an m545.

I am posting these video so any interested person can see the difference between the leopard 4092 2080 and the stock motor.

[kfxguy]

Wait, now I remember you. You’re the guy who comes here posting all sorts of ridiculous stuff and disregarding what anyone has to say.
Good luck with whatever man. I’m not getting. Sucked into this one.

Have a good one

I had to LOL

[kfxguy]

I’m going to step out too with you guys but first I feel the urge to point out some facts.

1) your comparing different kv motors so of course there’s going to be a difference in speed. Why wouldn’t there be?

2) you just learned something. Not that a leopard motor is faster. You learned just because a motor is rated a higher kv does NOT mean it’s faster. I’ve experienced this many times. A lower kv motor (usually) has more torque. What does that mean here? Well depending on your prop, Cg and your strut height and angle dictates the max rpm that a certain motor will swing the prop. You could prop down a little with the tp motor, unloading it some and allowing it to get to a higher rpm like it probably wants to go, and in turn get more speed. You could leave the same prop on that went faster with the tp (theoretically) and put the lower kv leopard back in and go even slower. A motor likes what it likes, and you can’t just think a simple motor swap like that will prove anything. That’s like switching canshafts in a motor but not retuning for the second camshaft and seeing the power drop when you know it should be more.

3) not all motors are exactly alike. You could buy two identical motors and put them on my motor tester (I’ve done it) and get a couple hundred kv difference between the two. Throw those two identical motors in a boat and watch them not go exactly the same speed.

4) I’ve had the exact same same setup go a certain speed and then the next day because of different conditions go faster or slower.

5) batteries are certainly a factor here. Where they the exact same packs used? As in the one used, charged and used again? Did you swap motors at the lake you were at? Was the flex greased the same way? Same gap? Motor alignment perfect? I’ve used different grease and dropped mph and picked up mph. So many variables that come into play.


My opinion is your “test” in inconclusive. I’m biased to be honest because tp is a better motor and their customer service is second only to Steven who owns this website. They listen to feedback and are constantly improving their stuff, all for a price that doesn’t break the bank.

[Speed3]

I think the tp is a better made motor. It would seem it will hold up better at higher rpm than the leopards. My 1730kv is developing a little play in the bearings since running 5s.

But while the tp might hold up better at higher rpm and be more durable.

I can tell you leopard is clearly more powerful. The 1730kv 4092 recorded higher speeds on gps that the 1950kv tp 4060. And the 2080kv leopard 4092 was even faster than the 1730 which should be straight forward.

The leopards ran cooler than the tp also.

If you looking a more durable motor that can handle higher reving applications. Tp is the motor to get.

But I am just sharing my experience leopard is more powerful.

[kfxguy]

I think the tp is a better made motor. It would seem it will hold up better at higher rpm than the leopards. My 1730kv is developing a little play in the bearings since running 5s.

But while the tp might hold up better at higher rpm and be more durable.

I can tell you leopard is clearly more powerful. The 1730kv 4092 recorded higher speeds on gps that the 1950kv tp 4060. And the 2080kv leopard 4092 was even faster than the 1730 which should be straight forward.

The leopards ran cooler than the tp also.

If you looking a more durable motor that can handle higher reving applications. Tp is the motor to get.

But I am just sharing my experience leopard is more powerful.

You obviously didn’t read or understand my post.

[CraigP]

Speed, it’s frustrating to read your post. You never give enough information. KFX tried to tell you, I’ve tried to tell you and numerous others have tried. I think you do a good job confusing new boaters that might read your posts. But you make no valid case as to why someone would follow your recommendations. Your videos show this very short acceleration burst, which the GPS is even suspect because you don’t give it proper acquisition time. These accelerations are so short I doubt it makes any difference what motor you run!

I hope you enjoy your nice spot there. But there is no useful information here...

[Speed3]

My revolt covers 0 to 200, 300 feet in a rush. I put up a video with the revolt with the stock motor and the m545 on 4s to give you guys a picture of how great of a difference it is with the 4092.

I have seen the zelos 36 in action. A stock zelos 36 on 6s cannot get close to my revolt on 4s with the 2080kv 4092 leopard.

A stock voracity cannot get close.

We race all those boat, in my area. I have hundreds of videos. I have the zelos with stock props. Bigger upgraded props. Upgraded motors.

Those areas where I posted those videos have long and wide running areas. Far more distance than the control range.

I see the guys run out of range all the time.

The guys basically drag with what you guys call saw setups. 45000 to 50000 plus rpm setups. Single and twin setups.

My revolt is close in speed to them kind of setups in my area.

That's with the 1730kv 4092 on 5s.

So those quick burst you guys looking at is over 300 feet in distance.

My revolt will run a stock 6s spartan using just 3s.

[Speed3]

https://youtu.be/-DOd0JPXk2A.

In the link the boat was running a short bust of 250 to 260 feet from start to finish.

I post that so you guys will understand what I mean by 250 feet.

[kfxguy]

My revolt covers 0 to 200, 300 feet in a rush. I put up a video with the revolt with the stock motor and the m545 on 4s to give you guys a picture of how great of a difference it is with the 4092.

I have seen the zelos 36 in action. A stock zelos 36 on 6s cannot get close to my revolt on 4s with the 2080kv 4092 leopard.

A stock voracity cannot get close.

We race all those boat, in my area. I have hundreds of videos. I have the zelos with stock props. Bigger upgraded props. Upgraded motors.

Those areas where I posted those videos have long and wide running areas. Far more distance than the control range.

I see the guys run out of range all the time.

The guys basically drag with what you guys call saw setups. 45000 to 50000 plus rpm setups. Single and twin setups.

My revolt is close in speed to them kind of setups in my area.

That's with the 1730kv 4092 on 5s.

So those quick burst you guys looking at is over 300 feet in distance.

My revolt will run a stock 6s spartan using just 3s.

My stock Zelos did 76mph. So there’s that. Not that I care to worry about or even compare rtr boats. Most people on here are light years ahead of you in experience from what I can tell. But you gotta start somewhere, I was there once so I can relate, but tread lightly or you will be laughed at and shunned. Just FYI

Ps leopard is not faster than tp. Lol

[Speed3]

So in that video above that is around 260feet from where the boat start to where it end.

The video that I posted with the 1730kv 4092 on 5s is a stretch about 350 feet from where I turn at the 11 to 12second mark in the video to the 16 second mark.

I don't post videos of the other guys boats for comparison because I don't think they would approve it.

[Speed3]

The water where I run demands torque. So the motor with the greatest torque will win. I follow you guys posts and videos and I can see that is not the case for you guys.

I know someone setup a zelos in my area with twin tp or twin sss 4082 size, probably twin 447 for props and did low 60's in the region where I running.

In the waters in you guys region I guess things would be far different.

But I know the difference is the water. Because the area where I ran in the video for the 2080 4092 4s run I cannot get a proper sail with the 1730kv 4092 on 5s the water current is really strong so it is hard for to give full throttle the boat flip quickly even though the water doesn't look ruff.

Where as I have another location where I can run that setup with no issues.

Difference being the water.

And on the matter of the motors the leopards have a lot more torque than the tp, that is why they are out performing the tp in my region.

[kfxguy]

The water where I run demands torque. So the motor with the greatest torque will win. I follow you guys posts and videos and I can see that is not the case for you guys.

I know someone setup a zelos in my area with twin tp or twin sss 4082 size, probably twin 447 for props and did low 60's in the region where I running.

In the waters in you guys region I guess things would be far different.

But I know the difference is the water. Because the area where I ran in the video for the 2080 4092 4s run I cannot get a proper sail with the 1730kv 4092 on 5s the water current is really strong so it is hard for to give full throttle the boat flip quickly even though the water doesn't look ruff.

Where as I have another location where I can run that setup with no issues.

Difference being the water.

And on the matter of the motors the leopards have a lot more torque than the tp, that is why they are out performing the tp in my region.

So you have special tq water. Gotcha.



So my answer to the tp powered Zelos running low 60’s is lack of experience. Last one I setup did 65mph on 4s. So I’m not sure what your guys are doing. And that was with lower kv motors than stock.