Had an interesting experience

[Speed3]

I was using a leopard 4092 1730kv in my revolt and ran up to 55mph on 5s with a m545.

I was hoping to get my boat in the 60's on 5s, so I bought a tp 4060 1950kv, and I tried different cells counts to see how it differ from the leopard.

I tried 3s first, I got 32 on GPS, with the leopard 1730 4092 I was getting 33mph on 3s, with a 2080kv 4092 leopard I was getting 37mph on 3s.

So I leopards prove to be faster on 3s.

On 4s the tp 4060 1950 did 40mph, the 1730 leopard was doing 42mph. Didn't gps the 2080 4092 with the same setup but based on other test I know its a little faster than the 1730kv on 4s.

So this has though me that the leopard is a little more powerful than the tp.

Basically same size motors all 4092 cans.

[Luck as a Constant]

To be fair, I hardly doubt you ran and checked gps then averaged your numbers out. Because as we know, a lot of variables come into play with rc boating.
To just say that one motor is better or faster than another because of a gps reading is a little silly. What were temps? How long did you run each? What were water conditions? All that stuff man

Other members here have done much more in depth testing and found TP to be more desirable. Either way, leopard motors have always done well for me. No complaints

[Speed3]

The motor temperature was good on all the motors, the leopards and tp.

I find once all connections are properly soldered the motor temperature will be good.

The water those really load up the motor in my area so the motor with the most torque will be the fastest.

In my area an aquacraft 1800 will get you mid 30 at best on with a m545, a x442 on 4s and the aquacraft will get you around 28 to 29mph in a proboat impulse and aquacraft revolt.

The above speeds can be expected with good lipos, good electrical connection, smooth run drive.

Speed will be less if your setup isn't good.

That's to give you an idea how the water load up the motors.

All speeds above are based on GPS recorded speeds.

So it so happen that the leopard has more torque than the tp that's why its faster.

Mind you I am not saying the tp is not a good motor, it is seems to be much better quality construction wise over the leopard.

The tp is much harder to turn by hand than the leopard, I was expecting atleast 5 to 6mph faster from the tp considering higher kV, stronger magnets but I was shock with the results.

[Luck as a Constant]

Wait, now I remember you. You’re the guy who comes here posting all sorts of ridiculous stuff and disregarding what anyone has to say.
Good luck with whatever man. I’m not getting. Sucked into this one.

Have a good one

[Speed3]

https://youtu.be/ITN06FWl_mA tp on 4s first video

[Speed3]

https://youtu.be/Y1KKagEKY9I leopard 4092 1730kv on 5s m545

[martin]

Stronger magnets ( cogging )does not mean a more power full motor, some of the most power full motors ie Lehner have hardly any cogging.

[CraigP]

Agreed. The strength of the cog is not related to torque output at all. It’s just the coil/rotor combination being used.

[Speed3]

Finally get to GPS the leopard 4092 2080kv on 4s with the 545. The GPS said 45.8mph.

These leopards are way more powerful than the tp. I am running 15 degree timing and everything super cool. Connectors, ESC capacitors, motor, ESC heatsink, battery connectors all room temperature after a few up and down passes. 15 degree timing on d wind motors.

The leopards running cooler than the tp too.

If only the leopards were constructed to with stand higher rpm like the tp they would be over kill.

[TRUCKPULL]

Are you trying to rewrite the basics of the difference between "D" & "Y" motors?
[Quote] 15 degree timing on d wind motors. [Quote]

You will get more out of it and save yourself problems down the road with 1 to 4 degrees timing on that motor.

Larry

[Speed3]

Does lower timing offer more speed on d wind motors?

Because its impossible for me to run any cooler right now.

My temperature is the same at the end as when I plug in the battery.

[NativePaul]

No, more efficiency.

[Speed3]

I make it a special emphasis to have the solder flow like water through my wires at every point.

Making sure they is enough solder to make the connector seem as one with every strand in the wire at every point.

Then make sure the connector is tightly fitted.

The result is a more aggressive motor, that runs much cooler and much cooler all around temperatures.

When I bought my most recent ESC, I pull off the heat strink. Put each connector over fire and apply flux until I saw things to my liking.

This is done to my motor too, and battery.

I know persons who have bought high reputed ESC that ran much hotter at lower amp draw.

I heard it said that tp motors run hot. And I am seeing constantly that d wind motors run hot and require 0 to 4 or 5 degree timing to reduce the heat. I heard some say leopards run hot.

Well I am experiencing extremely cool temperatures at the connectors at 15 degree timing on d wind motors.

Usually same temperate when I come in as when I started.

[robstercraws]

Did you start this thread to ask/answer your own questions? Nothing helpful here.

[TRUCKPULL]

All the best soldering in the world will not change the way the motor is made.

"D" = 0 to 4 degrees timing. any more then that only causes internal heat to the winding, and future damage to the motor, and could also damage your ESC and batteries.

Are you sure you don't have a "Y" motor???

Larry