Comparable Neu to TP 4050 & 4060

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  • Kaotic
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 447

    #1

    Comparable Neu to TP 4050 & 4060

    What Neu motor is comparable in size and output to the TP 4050 and 4060?

    Thanks!
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  • photohoward1
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Mar 2009
    • 1610

    #2
    1515 maybe

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    • flraptor07
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      • Aug 2013
      • 2451

      #3
      4050=1521, 4060=1527, 4070=1530 these equivelents are by physical size.

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      • Fluid
        Fast and Furious
        • Apr 2007
        • 8011

        #4
        Yes, in physical size. In performance not so much, the 4060 is probably closer to the 1521. Expect higher temps and slightly lower speeds with the TP....but if not reaching for the ultimate performance and efficiency levels then the TPs seem to be decent motors based on the two I tested. IME the TPs are better than comparable Leopards, but others have seen the opposite. But if I can't justify a Neu then I buy HET.


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        • Kaotic
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 447

          #5
          Originally posted by flraptor07
          4050=1521, 4060=1527, 4070=1530 these equivelents are by physical size.
          Thanks FLRAPTOR, Now if you where to put a 4060 up against a 1527 would it stay close in MPH or is there really no comparison? I know the Neu's are a far superior motor and would last a lot longer, i'm just trying to get a general idea.
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          • kfxguy
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            • Oct 2013
            • 8746

            #6
            Originally posted by Fluid
            Yes, in physical size. In performance not so much, the 4060 is probably closer to the 1521. Expect higher temps and slightly lower speeds with the TP....but if not reaching for the ultimate performance and efficiency levels then the TPs seem to be decent motors based on the two I tested. IME the TPs are better than comparable Leopards, but others have seen the opposite. But if I can't justify a Neu then I buy HET.


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            Jay, you are 100% correct. I've tested exact same kv 4060 vs neu 1521 and the 1521 with same batteries, prop, boat etc was a couple mph faster. And run a little cooler (about 10 degrees). To clarify that was a 1521 neu 1860kv d wind vs tp 4060 1870kv d wind.
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            • kfxguy
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              • Oct 2013
              • 8746

              #7
              Originally posted by Kaotic
              Thanks FLRAPTOR, Now if you where to put a 4060 up against a 1527 would it stay close in MPH or is there really no comparison? I know the Neu's are a far superior motor and would last a lot longer, i'm just trying to get a general idea.
              1527 will trounce a 4060. The 4070 might be a closer comparison.
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              • Kaotic
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 447

                #8
                Originally posted by kfxguy
                1527 will trounce a 4060. The 4070 might be a closer comparison.
                Thanks KFXGUY, thats what I was looking for.So you would need to go the next size up with a TP to compete with a Neu it sounds like.
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                • Kaotic
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 447

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fluid
                  Yes, in physical size. In performance not so much, the 4060 is probably closer to the 1521. Expect higher temps and slightly lower speeds with the TP....but if not reaching for the ultimate performance and efficiency levels then the TPs seem to be decent motors based on the two I tested. IME the TPs are better than comparable Leopards, but others have seen the opposite. But if I can't justify a Neu then I buy HET.


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                  I think I'm going to start with a TP and get some data on it off my ESC. Then make a detirmination of what NEU or Lehner motor I'll buy.
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                  • kfxguy
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                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8746

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kaotic
                    I think I'm going to start with a TP and get some data on it off my ESC. Then make a detirmination of what NEU or Lehner motor I'll buy.
                    What boat?
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                    • Kaotic
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 447

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kfxguy
                      What boat?
                      My Revolt right now, then I'm looking at a DF Mk II Mono
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                      • kfxguy
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                        • Oct 2013
                        • 8746

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kaotic
                        My Revolt right now, then I'm looking at a DF Mk II Mono
                        A 4050 would do well (1518 is probably comparable) but if you want a little excess power go with a 4060 but that may not fit. I'm not sure how much room you have. If it were me and I was going to go with a tp (all the motors I have are neu or castle tho) I'd put a 4050 in it and turn up the rpm with a 42mm prop. That's just me tho. There's a few different ways to arrive at the same thing. I prefer high rpm with a small prop....the boat will usually handle better with a smaller prop.
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                        • ray schrauwen
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                          • Apr 2007
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                          #13
                          External size yes but, not same length of stack or core.

                          Actually the 4070 has the outer dimensions of a 1527 not a 1530... The 4070 is slightly lighter than a 1527, that says a fair bit. I love my 4070 that I have in my Whip 40 on 6S2P for racing.

                          Originally posted by flraptor07
                          4050=1521, 4060=1527, 4070=1530 these equivelents are by physical size.
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                          • Scott T
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                            • Oct 2007
                            • 590

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kaotic
                            My Revolt right now, then I'm looking at a DF Mk II Mono
                            The smallest DF MkII that I'm aware of is 37", so it will need quite a different set-up than a Revolt. Which size are you getting?
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                            • flraptor07
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                              • Aug 2013
                              • 2451

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                              External size yes but, not same length of stack or core.

                              Actually the 4070 has the outer dimensions of a 1527 not a 1530... The 4070 is slightly lighter than a 1527, that says a fair bit. I love my 4070 that I have in my Whip 40 on 6S2P for racing.
                              Nope, I've had the 4070 and a 1530 side by side and actual measurement is 4070 107mm and 1530 107.95 the 100mm in the ad for the TP 4070 isn't right.

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