TP 3630 1950 Test Reports

[flraptor07]

Doug, did any of these go south?

You cheeslings are going to have the same problem we're having. The weather is about to change to yuck. The water is already too cool.

Yeah but us cheeslings down here in FLORIDA are still running in 85deg. water.

[T.S.Davis]

I was referring to the Wisconsin fellers.

Water up here is already in the 50's I think. Makes for nice cool everything.

[DPeterson]

Wow Lee - your club guy that had the burr in the underside doesn't even show up for your club race? He cost you guy's lost entrants and classes to run.

We hope to get to our pond one more time for a whole day to try and get data and maybe burn one down.

So far it appears to be Mission Accomplished. With this TP Motor (with real wire in it) you don't have to be an electrical engineer or as smart as some others to run it. It appears you can prop it wrong or maybe run it too long and not burn it down.

Good stuff. Really hope to hear from some others. Might pull another volume order. I'll pass along the discount - no underwriting.

Doby - sorry to hear the motor didn't help improve the looks of your boats.

Doug

[T.S.Davis]

Doug, yer crack 'n me up.

Burn one up! Awesome.

[photohoward1]

So Terry. If these work will it be accepted in your club next year as an alternative? Looking to get a couple from Doug for the Arizona race if allowed. Then I hope I could use them at your race if you have one.


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[DPeterson]

He He Terry. Funny - when you get older - burning one means something different than it used too. LOL

Your right about the weather not cooperating with our testing time. For us it doesn't matter much. We are committed and already have a significant level of support from our District racers. We'll come out swinging next spring.

I wonder what a 646/3 would do to one of these motors? :) Maybe not.

Doug

[T.S.Davis]

So Terry. If these work will it be accepted in your club next year as an alternative? .

not likely. We have too many guys running existing stuff that will feel (real or only perceived) that they are at a disadvantage. The only way would be for our club to veer away from P limited in favor of something else.

it's even less likely that they will be allowed at WW.

[T.S.Davis]

That said, we'll be exploring options. It's a fragile thing. We gave a good thing going up here. Don't want screw it up.

[ray schrauwen]

Wednesday looks like crap weather compared to tomorrow but, anyway...

Would you like a motor to go with that blue heat shrink?

I'd like to get out one more time this year... maybe...

So installed it in the Popeye.

1) Fits the current mounting holes in my TFL motor mount.
2) Fits the current screw size that I had in my AQ motor.
3) Fits the current rear mounting support ring in my TFL motor mount.
4) Fits the current 5mm TFL coupler on the shaft.
5) Fits the current cooling hose I use on the TP cooling jacket nipples.
6) Fits the current 5.5mm connectors that I use.
7) Fits the current "beeping" mode that my AQ motor does.
8) Powers up and rotates the propeller similar to my AQ motor.
9) Does not change the outside appearance of the boat at all.

So far....no B.S.

Water test hopefully Wednesday......


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[DPeterson]

not likely.

it's even less likely that they will be allowed at WW.

That said, we'll be exploring options. It's a fragile thing. We gave a good thing going up here. Don't want screw it up.

So is it a fragile thing? You have a good thing going? Why are you exploring options?
Now your crack'n me up Terry. LOL

By the way I didn't expect any entrenched MAMBA rule making clubs to budge. Race schedule for 2015 is planned accordingly.

Maybe sometime down the road our paths will re-connect. Doug

[TheShaughnessy]

He He Terry. Funny - when you get older - burning one means something different than it used too. LOL

Your right about the weather not cooperating with our testing time. For us it doesn't matter much. We are committed and already have a significant level of support from our District racers. We'll come out swinging next spring.

I wonder what a 646/3 would do to one of these motors? :) Maybe not.

Doug

I used to run a 646/3 on my SV 27. Never burnt the motor, but probably because it was never right side up for very long. Did manage to take out the esc running 18 nihm cells and that prop. I was clueless ha ha

Ps . Ill be enjoying sunny CA all winter long testing will continue

[Doby]

"If he dies , He Dies" - Rocky Vs. The Russian....... LOL

He did not die....

So, went to the pond this afternoon...

Took the following....

Qty 1 TFL Popeye Hydro: Original build thread here: http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...eye-quot-Hydro

Original run test results here :
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...137#post520137

Those results were with a old 2030 AQ motor
This season, it got a brand new 2030 AQ motor..same results more or less, but about 15 deg warmer each time with a distinct smell after each run.

My set up today was identical to what I have been using all season, the only difference in hardware is:
-ESC is now a el cheepo HK 120 6S. Been using this all season and its been flawless.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...C_4A_UBEC.html

-LiPos are now a single 4S 6000Mah Turnigy Nanotech 25-50C, brand new a few months ago with only 5 runs on each (Qty 3 packs went to the pond with me today)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Lipo_Pack.html

-Motor, One of Doug Peterson's TP's rated at 1950KV
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ers&highlight=

-Prop, Octura M445 sharpened and balanced.

Now, comparing the manufacturers specs, I am comparing a 2030 Kv motor to this 1950Kv motor. So, less Kv with all other things being the same should = slower boat. Yes, yes..I've heard that the KV ratings can vary, but that's all I have to go on.

Environmental Conditions today: I'll try and speak American as the Metric system seems to mess with your minds
Temp 71.6F
Humidity 80%
Wind 0-5 Mph from the east
Water Temp 61.7F, glass surface to SLIGHT ripple.
Severely overcast with a 40% chance of showers
Approx only 2 hours of sunshine forecasted for today (I saw about 2 minutes of that today)
Time was from 2:10 PM to 3:30 PM, Oct 15 2014.

Don't ask for vids because I can't do two things at once. Don't believe my results...tough, do your own testing.

So, Popeye was tossed in and I hit the throttle..well, what do we have here

It took off like a bat out of you know where...it had a distinctively higher pitched whine to it than the AQ motor...higher actual Kv perhaps?? It aired out much better and was definitely faster, holding the speed better in the turns as well.....Interesting!

Did two quick laps around or clubs course (probably 4/5ths the size of a full size course) and brought it in for a check.

Time between removal of the Popeye from the water to measuring the temps..46.5 seconds as per my non calibrated stopwatch.

Motor temp, 105.4F as per my trusty Turnigy temp meter
Connectors 127F
ESC 98F

Hmmmm...Interesting...

Let everything cool down to ambient temperatures. Put a fresh pack in and off It went again, but this time with my trusty GPS on board.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...arehouse_.html Its been proven pretty accurate when compared to my Garmin in my car.

Ran 4 laps and brought it in :
Motor temp, 110.3F as per my trusty Turnigy temp meter
Connectors 131F
ESC 99.4F
Max speed was 52.7Mph....

Hmmmm...Very interesting!

Let everything cool down again and put in the last battery.

Ran 7 laps and brought it in :
Motor temp, 126,4F as per my trusty Turnigy temp meter
Connectors 135F
ESC 99.8F
Max Speed was 52.4Mph

Still had 37% left in the Lipo!

Conclusions?????
-I like the motor
-Faster than with the AQ motor.
-Sounds way cooler!
-Everyone with a current 2030 motor should not run out and switch motors.
-A viable motor to supplement the current "approved" motors (so what if it doesn't come in a RTR, need to get away from that mentality).
-long term reliability...only time will tell, and we are running out of time as winters approaching.

[T.S.Davis]

46.5 seconds as per my non calibrated stopwatch.

Well there's yer problem. You forgot to carry the one in your translation from Canadian

Good stuff John. Sorta what Doug was shooting for.

What were you on the GPS with the 2030?

[Doby]

Around the 47ish mark, but with a X447 and a heavier GPS...never did gps the 445 with the 2030..but its definitely faster this time than when I last ran the boat 2 weeks ago with the 2030. Really notice a difference in the speed in the turns. Gets way more air under the boat and handles better with a higher speed.

[ray schrauwen]

Thanks John. I was wrong, today was nicer outside.