TP 3630 1950 Test Reports

[DPeterson]

Ran a Limited Mono and Limited Tunnel this weekend. I don't do data logging as I do the temperature gun thing. I had the timing at 7.5 for both set ups. Too high. As I moved the timing up all I got was about 10 more degrees of heat per time. I'll be moving all my set ups to 0 - 3.25.

Our race was water was cold and rough on Saturday. Hard to get a real accurate read. On Sunday we raced and the conditions were better. I would say the TP motor performance was dead on the same as the AQ2030. My boats ran exactly the same as they have been.

On Saturday I put a 447 on my Mono and run 7 laps. The boat was slow and the motor came back 145 degrees. A simple and quick check to see where the breaking point may be. The motor smelled worked, but otherwise survived in great condition. Might be, because it has real wires in it and not sewing thread.

We did run a Sport Hydro with the TP and data logging but was battling a turn fin and handling issues with it, so no data we can count on.

We will be going back to the pond in a couple weeks to run data logging to get some hard data.

Please post here your findings.

Later - Doug

[properchopper]

[TheShaughnessy]

Wondering what the logs showed

[Doby]

Got mine today...thanks Douggie

First impressions, the motor looks nicely constructed (although it did have one of the wire insulators that did slide out of the motor). I'll slide it back in and maybe add some CA to keep it there....hope that doesn't go against the spec rules (think heat shrink).

The cooling jacket seems about as adequate as one of the AQ jackets. Installing the O rinds was a bit interesting, but once in, it slid on the motor with no problems (thanks to dish soap!)

Hope to have it in my P Limited Popeye next week for some trials.

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[Quietlee]

I noticed a similar issue on the wire insulators on a couple of mine. Just to clarify, for others watching, the insulator coming out of the case is actually a braided fabric/plastic that would slide fairly easy over the wire. The red, yellow, and green shrink wrap at the end of the wires basically holds the braided stuff on the wires. Once you get your connectors on the ends of the wire, the shrink wrap you put over those will help to keep the braid snugged up to the motor.
Gonna be fiddling around with them a bit this weekend.

[DPeterson]

Hey Doby - send it back. I'll fix it for ya. :)

I had one look the same. Quietlee got the fix right. How about the real wire deal? A couple motors had some set srew marks already on the flat spot. Do some motors go through some sort of testing?

Got the last two extra motors heading towards the west coast. Be nice to get more feedback from some others. I just may pull the trigger on another 50 motors.

The preliminary logging showed about 500 more rpm than the ULI with a slightly higher amp draw. Makes sense as the kv is 1950TP versus 1900UL1. Other than that I'll let the more knowledgeable loggers report their findings.

Doug

[Doby]

My testing will be a simple motor swap in the Popeye, nothing else...going to run the same m445 and see what happens.
If I kill it, so be it.

[photohoward1]

Might be, because it has real wires in it and not sewing thread.

Funny!

[Doug Smock]

It is 900w vs the UL1s 740w

[tlandauer]

Hey Doby - send it back. I'll fix it for ya. :)

I had one look the same. Quietlee got the fix right. How about the real wire deal? A couple motors had some set srew marks already on the flat spot. Do some motors go through some sort of testing?

Got the last two extra motors heading towards the west coast. Be nice to get more feedback from some others. I just may pull the trigger on another 50 motors.

The preliminary logging showed about 500 more rpm than the ULI with a slightly higher amp draw. Makes sense as the kv is 1950TP versus 1900UL1. Other than that I'll let the more knowledgeable loggers report their findings.

Doug

Interesting, I have never had a motor ( TP that is) that look remotely like it had been used/tested, then again, we are talking about 5 or 6 motors total. I did however had a problem recently with their 40xx motor. I returned for a refund and had a few e mail exchanges with Junlin. I told her that the motor was never run but I had soldered 5.5mm bullets and she told me to include the female bullets so the motor can be used for her husband's EDFs. Anyway, the subject did come up as I asked her if they ever send RMA items out after checking and she reassured me that they don't.
Short of saying that it has been used, I would guess ( and this is to put the best case scenario) that only perhaps the rotors were "tested'' before?

[msundsd5]

My testing will be a simple motor swap in the Popeye, nothing else...going to run the same m445 and see what happens.
If I kill it, so be it.

"If he dies , He Dies" - Rocky Vs. The Russian....... LOL

[Quietlee]

Found it a little tricky to get the O-rings in the cooling can. Just took a little time to ease them in. There were a couple little spots where it looked like the rings might have slipped out, I had no water leaks under pressure.
Race this past weekend, but some of the FE guys didn't show. Didn't swap over the tunnel to the TP because someone didn't want the TP motors at the pond and they were supposed to be there with a tunnel. They didn't show either. Guess a little too cold and windy. I did make a run with my hydro and Cyberstorm. Didn't notice much difference on the hydro from the AQ to the TP. I did run a bit bigger prop to try and push it, but the water was a bit rough. A few good downwind passes was all we could really get. Temp wasn't bad when I brought it in, but it was only 45 out. The mono ran a bit better in the windy chop. Ran my normal 545 on that and it seemed to be a bit faster than before. BUT, I was only running a PB1800 in there before because I could not get an AQ2030 to run in there without melting things down even with smaller props. With the PB motor I had been holding my own with others running Revolts, but a couple others were faster. With the TP motor it should keep up with the others. I may be able to run an even bigger prop, but it was pretty close to the edge as it was. Plus race water adds that little extra unknown.
Was kind of hoping the motor would have been a little warmer after the run, but I was somewhat disappointed. My fingers were kinda cold and I wanted to warm them up on the motor, but there wasn't that much heat.

[Doby]

Peterson B.S. Check

So installed it in the Popeye.

1) Fits the current mounting holes in my TFL motor mount.
2) Fits the current screw size that I had in my AQ motor.
3) Fits the current rear mounting support ring in my TFL motor mount.
4) Fits the current 5mm TFL coupler on the shaft.
5) Fits the current cooling hose I use on the TP cooling jacket nipples.
6) Fits the current 5.5mm connectors that I use.
7) Fits the current "beeping" mode that my AQ motor does.
8) Powers up and rotates the propeller similar to my AQ motor.
9) Does not change the outside appearance of the boat at all.

So far....no B.S.

Water test hopefully Wednesday......


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[T.S.Davis]

Doug, did any of these go south?

You cheeslings are going to have the same problem we're having. The weather is about to change to yuck. The water is already too cool.

[ron1950]

solid water can really slow down the testing process....