Seaking 180-leopard 3674 2650kv timing???

[JIM MARCUM]

That Leopard 2860 motor in the first video has a 28mm wide by 60mm long can. At 3400KV, the motor has a no load RPM of 50,320. Looks like he's getting 60+ MPH to me. It blows over due to the bow ridding too high at speed.

Second video boat is setup better, running close to horizontal to the water at speed. The 2W2S British motors are equivalant to 2848 2660 KV motors. On 6S thats 59,052 no load RPM. I have no doubt that he was going 74.4 MPH as claimed. JIM

[Stephavee]

How about seaking 180 and a Leo 3674 1700kv on 6s in a bj26?

[Diesel6401]

How about seaking 180 and a Leo 3674 1700kv on 6s in a bj26?

Kv is to high for 6s. At 1700kv its a much better 4s or 5s motor. Jmho

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[Stephavee]

Well that's what i was told to get for 6s. I was trying to get the best setup for running my erevo batterys in my bj26 safely. If that isn't the right motor then what is? But what should the timing be for the 3674 1700kv?

[stadiumyamaha]

+1 with diesel, he knows what he's doing.

[Diesel6401]

Well that's what i was told to get for 6s. I was trying to get the best setup for running my erevo batterys in my bj26 safely. If that isn't the right motor then what is? But what should the timing be for the 3674 1700kv?

In that 3674 size can the 1400kv would have been a much better choice imho. Your getting kinda high in the unloaded rpms, id never run that 1700kv on 6s. For timing the motor is listed as a Y wind so 11.25* is a nice place to start. I was running my Leopard Y winds on seaking esc'c with 15* timing, but I'm gonna try 11.25 for a little. I may have to eagletree the differences.

+1 with diesel, he knows what he's doing.

Every so often I'll have a clue lol

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[Stephavee]

I have spent alot of time on this website asking what to buy for running 6s. After a 2 months and several posts later i only got one reply from Steve. So i assumed that was all the help i was going to get and made my order. So now what do i do spend more money on batterys just to run in my boat? If i wanted to run 4-5s i would have ordered a higher kv motor. What will happen if i run my setup on 6s? Excessive heat or just lots of magic smoke!? Thanks for the advice I'll use it for the next time.

[Diesel6401]

I have spent alot of time on this website asking what to buy for running 6s. After a 2 months and several posts later i only got one reply from Steve. So i assumed that was all the help i was going to get and made my order. So now what do i do spend more money on batterys just to run in my boat? If i wanted to run 4-5s i would have ordered a higher kv motor. What will happen if i run my setup on 6s? Excessive heat or just lots of magic smoke!? Thanks for the advice I'll use it for the next time.

Well 1700-1800kv is actually my favorite kv range for 4s running and is a perfect range for 5s as well. That's just me. If you have a seaking 180 and this motor on 4s and 5s I think that's a wonderful setup just disconnect the bec on 5s runs. If you run your setup on 6s it will honestly prob run just fine for a while, and then you may get the smoke out of no where. At the higher rpms your reliability on all your equipment becomes an issue. Your strut bearings are gonna wear quicker, motor bearings will also wear quicker and your esc is going to be subject to very high/heavy amp spikes. I always say this when it comes to high rpms setups "Its not a matter of if its going to fail, its a matter of when."

Lots of folks (mostly new guys) come into the boating world and try to re-write/bend the high rpms rules (not throwing you in the catogory, just a little fyi) and mention they have no problems running a high kv motor on 6s, but they don't mention when they have problems and/or when their equipment starts having issues. The rpm chart and guidlines we use in boating are put in place to help prevent blowing money or damaged equipment. Everyone would love to run excess rpms for crazy speeds, but we know the consquences of doing it and the cost of doing it. In the thread i linked below the chart is super helpful for what you need, its in the first post.

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ession-with-6s

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[Stephavee]

Thanks for your much appreciated advice! I will get some new batterys and run the little motor for what it is. If if blows then i will get something different. Would the stock bj26 motor be better on 6s its 1500kv?

[Diesel6401]

Thanks for your much appreciated advice! I will get some new batterys and run the little motor for what it is. If if blows then i will get something different. Would the stock bj26 motor be better on 6s its 1500kv?

Actually yes it is a nice little 6s motor. A little reliable 6s setup would be that motor matched with a seaking 80hv esc. (I don't run my esc's to max voltage another reliability thing).

I one of those guys that's I just buy it and do it right the first time, nothing irritates me more then buying the same things again because I tried to shortcut something the first time. End up spending more in the long run. Jmho

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[Stephavee]

Actually yes it is a nice little 6s motor. A little reliable 6s setup would be that motor matched with a seaking 80hv esc. (I don't run my esc's to max voltage another reliability thing).

I one of those guys that's I just buy it and do it right the first time, nothing irritates me more then buying the same things again because I tried to shortcut something the first time. End up spending more in the long run. Jmho

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Wait... So the stock 3650 1500kv motor is good on 6s but the seaking 180 isn't? I just want a really fast boat that doesn't give me alot of grief! Going to the lake should be fun and relaxing not fire fighting training!

[Diesel6401]

Wait... So the stock 3650 1500kv motor is good on 6s but the seaking 180 isn't? I just want a really fast boat that doesn't give me alot of grief! Going to the lake should be fun and relaxing not fire fighting training!

Many guys run that 180 on 6s all the time. I'm just not one of them that all I was saying. I just don't mention anything I personally wouldn't run that's all. Like I mentioned many people run those esc's on 6s I'm just not one of them. Its a 2s-6s esc.

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[Rumdog]

I don't like the idea of running esc's to the max voltage either, but I've been running 6s on 3 different Seakings fo 2 years now with 0 problems. I was hesitant at first, but never a hiccup.

[JIM MARCUM]

Steph, the Turnigy/HobbyWing 180 is one of the best ESCs you can buy for this setup. Lower Amp ESCs limit your battery/motor choices too much. At +- $80, the T180 is affordable, super reliable, and can be transplanted into a larger boat in the future. I've gone thru a few "low" amp ESCs in my quest for speed. Time & money wasted. Go for quality, reliability, and expandability - the T 180 is my baseline for any 2-6S small/medium size boat build. I also love Leopard motors, and for big boats like Castle HYDRA 200 Amp ICE-2HV ESCs. Leopard makes excellent quality motors and are 1/2 the price of other top motors. Others may prefer Nu or other big buck motors - and other ESCs, but unless you have deep pockets & are looking to break a SAW record the Leopards will serve you well. JIM

[Stephavee]

Steph, the Turnigy/HobbyWing 180 is one of the best ESCs you can buy for this setup. Lower Amp ESCs limit your battery/motor choices too much. At +- $80, the T180 is affordable, super reliable, and can be transplanted into a larger boat in the future. I've gone thru a few "low" amp ESCs in my quest for speed. Time & money wasted. Go for quality, reliability, and expandability - the T 180 is my baseline for any 2-6S small/medium size boat build. I also love Leopard motors, and for big boats like Castle HYDRA 200 Amp ICE-2HV ESCs. Leopard makes excellent quality motors and are 1/2 the price of other top motors. Others may prefer Nu or other big buck motors - and other ESCs, but unless you have deep pockets & are looking to break a SAW record the Leopards will serve you well. JIM

Steph...Ha Ha i was knew someone was going to think that was my name. My name is Dave, Stephanie is my beautifull wife and our last name starts with a V. so when i find a good Vee hull That i realy like i will name it after my wife...stephaVee...get it...? i've been looking at the Impulse, thats a nice looking boat! but i think im done with the RTR boats for now so i'll keep looking. Thanks for the advice! i will run what i got for now, The BJ26 is a small boat for that setup and shouldnt put too much load on anything. I plan to get some 4s-2p cells to play with and leave the 6s for showing off. back to the topic...11.25 for timming? what does timming do if its set too high or too low? thanks