Need Help with newest 180A SeaKings

[donhuff]

Flash,

I have sent an email to charlie, now waiting for a return.

[Doug Smock]

Flash,

I have sent an email to charlie, now waiting for a return.

You have had plenty of time to find the fix Mr. Huff. I'm a little disappointed in you honestly.
If this had been one of those rotating mass things, the issue would have been solved long ago.
Please hurry I have Peter's mono just about ready to test and he has the newer control.

[Revolt Flash]

Flash,

I have sent an email to charlie, now waiting for a return.

Keep us posted. I got a 180 acting up too.

[donhuff]

Doug,

If it had been a carburetor, I would be able to SEE what was wrong! But with this electric BS, I have to wait for something to come down out of the clouds, and then "HOPE" that it works!

And as you know, I've been busy lately trying to get the Q boat ready. I got the stinger, stuffing tube, motor mount/rails all glued in and mounted today. I hope to attach the top deck to the hull tomorrow, and then get the rest of the hardware mounted. I'm trying to get it all mounted solid so we can do some 80-90-??? mph aero-aqua-batics with it, and not damage the hull to the point that we have to start over. So I glued the rails in before joining the hull and deck, lots easier to work on that way. I have a red and a white top ready, and have the bottoms to go with them, gotta look after my record setting buddies. I just want to try the yellow one first to make sure it floats!


Flash, I'll be sure to post what I find out. I still think it's gonna be something I'm doing wrong or something that I'm not doing. Charlie got back to me around 12:00 today, but I was in the shop and did not get back to him before late evening. He wants a picture of the thing so that he knows which one I have. I thought that was odd, but looking back at my post, I forgot to say what I had other than a 180A. "sorry Charlie"

[Doug Smock]

Doug,

If it had been a carburetor, I would be able to SEE what was wrong! But with this electric BS, I have to wait for something to come down out of the clouds, and then "HOPE" that it works!

And as you know, I've been busy lately trying to get the Q boat ready. I got the stinger, stuffing tube, motor mount/rails all glued in and mounted today. I hope to attach the top deck to the hull tomorrow, and then get the rest of the hardware mounted. I'm trying to get it all mounted solid so we can do some 80-90-??? mph aero-aqua-batics with it, and not damage the hull to the point that we have to start over. So I glued the rails in before joining the hull and deck, lots easier to work on that way. I have a red and a white top ready, and have the bottoms to go with them, gotta look after my record setting buddies. I just want to try the yellow one first to make sure it floats!

[revoltrunner]

I have 2 seaking V3 180s that were acting the same way.
they would get up to full throttle then shut down.
then go again and shut down. in my case it was the bec
browning out and shutting down the receiver.
I'm using these to power the receiver now , no more problems.
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...-for-lipo.html

[donhuff]

I'm pretty sure that I tried a separate battery for the RX, didn't change anything.

I get the flashing light that sez it's a LVC problem.

[revoltrunner]

Hi Don. I really didn't think that is your issue but I saw other guys having
trouble so I thought it might help them. the bec on the v3 is not very good
and I even have a v2 that had the same problem.

[Doug Smock]

I'm pretty sure that I tried a separate battery for the RX, didn't change anything.

Yes you did.

[HTVboats]

I have 2 180's, one from OSE and one from HK purchased in the last year and both have the same cut out then reset issue. Posted on another thread here and no one has come up with a solution that works. I also tried all the settings and eliminated the BEC with the same results. 4s and 6s. Totally frustrating as my oldest 180 has worked perfectly for years.
Solution is buy another brand ESC or find a short course with 50 ft straightaways, lift and get back on it.
What could have changed from the old to new V-3's? Hardware or software program?
Mic

[donhuff]

Hi Mic,

Thank God somebody else is having the same issues as I'm having. Sorry that it's happening to you, but I was beginning to think that I had bought the only three BAD escs that they made.

Charlie did get back to me, but did not offer a lot of info. He said that I should set the throttle limits (?). This is something that I had not done as "usually" with the seaking 180s and 120s that we have used before, this was not an issue. We just take em out of the box, solder ends on them, set cell count no reverse and timing with a program box, and go racing. The throttle has always been right before, without having to set the limits. The throttle was ok with these units too, just like the older ones were. Doug Smock told me to do the same thing so I'M GONNA DO IT and give that a try even though I have absolutely no faith that it will have anything to do with the problem. We'll see this weekend if that has any effect, and Doug will too as he also has one of these newer units in a boat that he is setting up for another club member.

It really seems like an over heat problem to me, and since I get the green blinking light when it shuts down, this seems to verify it. Then after the first shut down, the second one comes quicker, and the the third even quicker. Sounds like a heat buildup to me. But then it seems to level off and runs the same length of time there after. I'm about ready to send them to Hobbywing usa but I bet that they will give me flack about cutting off the switch and shortening the leads.

[HTVboats]

I wonder if the issue is the program or components to go to a failsafe mode triggered by a heat sensor is kicking in prematurely and then releasing back to full throttle as it recognizes a safe temp? Just thinking. I have always set my end point to 120%. Maybe a less percentage will keep it from triggering the momentary shut down. If I hold the throttle just short of full it doesn't quit? Then again it's a cheap controller and you get what you pay for. Have not tried my $38 Flycolor 150's with more than a 1515 yet. Maybe on 6s they will run a 1521? As for "P" it looks like an MGM or Swordy 240-300.
Mic

[Doug Smock]

Anything new on this fellas?

[Revolt Flash]

I'm still waiting for that magical answer too.

[HTVboats]

Yep, I spent $320 for another MGM (25035 Lite) and have 2 worthless 180's on the "healing Shelf" with some Castles and Swordy's for company. For what I have spent on cheap esc's I could have a few more MGM's or Swordy 300's.
Mic
Solutions are never cheap!