Swordfish 300amp HV Lite Wiring

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  • electric
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2008
    • 1744

    #1

    Swordfish 300amp HV Lite Wiring

    First time to deal with one of these ESC's. I can see that the two positive wires go together and the two negatives go together. Then I would solder them to the capacitor on one side and out to the other side for + and - ? My two questions are:
    1. How do you join the two positive wires into one? To big to solder well together? I was thinking maybe I make up a Y connector and do it with plugs?
    2. Should the one positive(after the "Y") go on to one of the solder pads for the capacitor and then a second wire go out to the batteries on the other solder pad for positive? Same for the negative. I actually have wired a castle with the capacitors, but they were soldered to the wire, but not terminated to the capacitor and back out like this might be?

    3. Perhaps a picture is worth a thousand words on this one. Someone have pic of it set up?

    The castle was in the picture just as a comparison for a friend.

    Thanks,
    Jim
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  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #2
    man i juist did one for a guy. cant find any pics even tho i thought I took some. Anyway, I cut the two red and two black short....maybe an inch long. then I soldered each pair into large bullets, 8mm or 8.5mm I cant remember. then I made up my harness going to the battery plugs with a fairly short 8ga wire.
    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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    • klbo
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 104

      #3
      image.jpg
      Soldered 8 mm bullets to all connections drilled a hole through the solder whole soldered a brass rod soldered the brass rod to the capacitors

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      • electric
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2008
        • 1744

        #4
        Originally posted by klbo
        [ATTACH=CONFIG]130414[/ATTACH]
        Soldered 8 mm bullets to all connections drilled a hole through the solder whole soldered a brass rod soldered the brass rod to the capacitors
        Wow, that took some work. Nice solution though. I was staring at it this morning and thinking if I strip a piece of 8 gauge wire and then strip the wires coming out of the esc. Then take piece of copper wire and wind the three wires together and then solder it might work. I had not figured out the capacitor connection though. I think I like the way castle does their capacitors better. Very nice work you did.

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        • klbo
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 104

          #5
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          I got this capacitor with the swordfish 300
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          Last edited by klbo; 04-03-2015, 04:22 PM.

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          • electric
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2008
            • 1744

            #6
            Yes, I was going to show an alternate way to solder up one of these ESC's, but after finishing perhaps its just a cautionary tale. I pre soldered each wire. Flattened them with a hammer and then held them together with vise grips. Then I wrapped it with solid copper wire and then soldered the three together. Seemed like a reasonable approach, but the darn wire is just too thick and you end up with way more wire and solder than you want. I went forward with it and here is what I ended up with. Not proud of it. At this point though, I just hope it functions correctly and I will live with the ugliness of it. Would have preferred to not have clear insulation so you can't see it, but that is all I had available in the shop today. Next time I will use bullets and a harness. Just did not have any big ones available to me today.

            Suddenly I really, really appreciate the quality of Klbo's work.
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            Last edited by electric; 04-03-2015, 03:04 PM.

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            • electric
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • May 2008
              • 1744

              #7
              By the way, could we have some bigger solder pads for the capacitors please. You have these giant wires and the tiny solder pads they leave you. I am left wondering whether those contact points are big enough considering the amps that are being pulled etc...

              I like these castle capacitors because they have bars coming up to solder to that you can put right in line.
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              • klbo
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 104

                #8
                Are you running one battery pack or multiple battery packs

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                • electric
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • May 2008
                  • 1744

                  #9
                  This one will be a 10s set up. four 5s batteries. Running a Castle 2028 in 48" mono.

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                  • klbo
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 104

                    #10
                    I'm running the same motor and battery configuration in my 58 Central marine fountain
                    I think you'll definitely have to revisit your wiring then that is going to be a high amp draw system
                    what size bullet connectors are you running 8mm minimum you really should do something more like what I've done you'll be able to plug-in 10s per sideimage.jpgimage.jpg
                    i'm going to be running A 455x prop


                    yours looks like its soldered well should work
                    Last edited by klbo; 04-03-2015, 05:18 PM.

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                    • iridebikes247
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 1449

                      #11
                      This is one of the only useful pictures I have to show how I've setup these escs. You can solder the two wires together and can solder a third wire on without getting a cold joint, just takes a decent amount of heat.
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                      Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSr...6EH3l3zT6mWHsw

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                      • electric
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2008
                        • 1744

                        #12
                        Thanks for ideas and pics guys. The castle 200hv you see in my pics is being used for a Backlash I am running 10s with yet another Castle 2028. Big fan of those motors and what they can do at the price point they are at is amazing. On the 48" mono that uses this swordfish I am going to start with a cut down, pitched up x452. then a x455, then 457 depending on the speeds and what I get with each run.

                        If I get some video's of it I will post it. Can't find my pivot head sunglasses (camera built in) some maybe not.

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                        • oscarel
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 2128

                          #13
                          Hey Jim, I was planning on sharing this on Saturday but forgot. Here's what I did with mine. This frees up the leads to use as you want. I also added more conformal coating on the main board. Notice the water line was kinked on this one. Also, the wrap around lines are smaller than the in/out and notice how little cooling there is :-).

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                          • oscarel
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2128

                            #14
                            And here it is shrink wrapped back up with cap bank underneath.

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                            • RaceMechaniX
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2821

                              #15
                              Oscarel,

                              If you still have the shrink off can you take a pic of the other side of the SF300lite?

                              Thx
                              Tyler Garrard
                              NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
                              T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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