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  • srislash
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    • Mar 2011
    • 7673

    #31
    Originally posted by Mxkid261
    I would ditch those XT90 connectors those have like 4.5mm bullets. 6.5 castle connectors would be a much better option
    This is what I use. If I need to run 2p I run a T with two 6.5's into one 8mm.

    Like theseDSCN1425[1].jpg

    if you want a set I can send you these, I made a few of them

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    • RuntheraceAMC
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2016
      • 222

      #32
      Could the connectors be causing the esc heat issues?

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      • RuntheraceAMC
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 222

        #33
        Any pics or links to these castle connectors?

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        • srislash
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          • Mar 2011
          • 7673

          #34
          Originally posted by RuntheraceAMC
          Any pics or links to these castle connectors?
          Look at my above post, I have edited

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          • Mxkid261
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 734

            #35
            Originally posted by srislash
            I am suspect of the XT90 plug as well as the cooling lines. I looked the XT's up and cant find the size of bullit. But the dimensions of the housing that I found would not allow big enough connectors for this. How can one expect to give enough power to warrent 8mm connectors at the motor when the battery connector is only 5mm? If it is even that. Neat connector though with the anti spark but you should have 8mm there too. Anti spark is not really necessary for 6s.
            I just looked it up and they are indeed only 4.5mm bullets in the xt90 connector which is way to small for the OP's setup. 5.5mm bullets at minimum, 6.5 castle connectors would be a better. I too think all those water lines/fittings are unnecessary

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            • srislash
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              • Mar 2011
              • 7673

              #36
              I run the 6.5's on all my batteries. And I never have had an issue even on this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2LykA7azQA

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              • Mxkid261
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 734

                #37
                Castle connectors. http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...as-011-0053-00

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                • srislash
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                  • Mar 2011
                  • 7673

                  #38
                  Originally posted by RuntheraceAMC
                  Could the connectors be causing the esc heat issues?
                  OH YEAH, it is a bottleneck. The motor wants the energy and pulls on the ESC for power, ESC cant get it threw the XT so it heats up trying

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                  • RuntheraceAMC
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 222

                    #39
                    Originally posted by srislash
                    This is what I use. If I need to run 2p I run a T with two 6.5's into one 8mm.

                    Like these[ATTACH=CONFIG]147515[/ATTACH]

                    if you want a set I can send you these, I made a few of them
                    I would love to grab those off of you. What do I owe you?

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                    • srislash
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                      • Mar 2011
                      • 7673

                      #40
                      Originally posted by RuntheraceAMC
                      I would love to grab those off of you. What do I owe you?
                      How about $20 shipped, I am off to the PO today so PM me your address

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                      • RuntheraceAMC
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 222

                        #41
                        Soooo I just went to run the boat and my motor was making the most God awful sound. Took it to my LHS and was advised that it's probably a loose magnet. I was also advised that repairing these magnets is usually unsuccessful.

                        So I think I am ordering a new motor. Was thinking of dropping the kv so I can run 8s. My esc is ratites up to 14s. The 1300kv leopard was going to be my pick. High enough kv that 6s should still be fast but low enough to run 8s. Thoughts?

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                        • fweasel
                          master of some
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 4287

                          #42
                          Originally posted by RuntheraceAMC
                          Thoughts?
                          Now that the motor is coming out, you can replumb your cooling lines.
                          Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                          • RuntheraceAMC
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 222

                            #43
                            Lol. True.

                            Any thoughts on motor choice?

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                            • NativePaul
                              Greased Weasel
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2760

                              #44
                              PWM stands for Pulse Width Modulation. ESCs switch (modulate) the full battery voltage on and off for various width of pulses extremely fast to simulate a lower voltage, in order to control the speed. It is actually AC, but the switching so fast that it is approximates DC. The standard frequency for the switching is 8mhz, but some motors can still see the fluctuations and are not happy, many ESCs can be programmed to ramp up the speed of the switching to 16mhz or 32mhz for a much smoother approximation of DC in order to keep these motors happy. The FETs that chop up the DC in ESCs have switching losses as well as resistance, and doubling the switching rate doubles the heat generated by those switching losses. If you set your ESCs to higher than 8mhz with most motors you are needlessly generating heat.
                              Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                              • srislash
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                                • Mar 2011
                                • 7673

                                #45
                                And on that note, default on Etti's is 16mhz

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