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  • TRUCKPULL
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 2971

    #586
    Problem with tape sticking.
    I did an epoxy finish on my Pearl.
    Epoxy thinned with alcohol, two coats.
    I am now having trouble with the tape not wanting to stick.
    Do I need to wet sand and put a light coat of clear on it?

    Larry
    Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
    Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
    Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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    • RandyatBBY
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2007
      • 3915

      #587
      Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
      Problem with tape sticking.
      I did an epoxy finish on my Pearl.
      Epoxy thinned with alcohol, two coats.
      I am now having trouble with the tape not wanting to stick.
      Do I need to wet sand and put a light coat of clear on it?

      Larry
      In the aera that you want to tape, take a light 400grt. wet and dry sand paper to the tape aera. Also a pad inside the sand paper wrap will help to take off high spots. It will stick better and solve the problem. I use 220 grt. and 320 before 400. do not put on as much pressure on the rougher grt. I put up with the sand mark s for better stick. If you do not like the sand look go to finer grt's and buff.
      Randy
      For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
      BBY Racing

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      • TRUCKPULL
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 2971

        #588
        Thank you
        Randy

        I will give that a try.

        Larry
        Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
        Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
        Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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        • lohring
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 182

          #589
          I ran my Black Pearl with Brian's 1715 prop. It ran really well until I ran up the rooster tail of the boat I was overtaking. The impact broke the steering servo horn and cracked the transom to bottom joint. It's time to get really serious about reinforcing all the bottom joints.

          Lohring Miller

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          • jaike5
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 561

            #590
            Did you have any separation from the sides and the bottom pan, from the transom forward ?

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            • lohring
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 182

              #591
              Yes, along the rudder side. I opened the bottom joint along the transom and up the rudder side, added epoxy, and clamped shut. I added epoxy fillets to all the interior bottom joints with fiberglass over the transom to bottom joint. We'll see how that holds up.

              Lohring Miller

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              • T.S.Davis
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2009
                • 6221

                #592
                I reinforce the b'geezus out of the transom. At the corners where the sides meet the trans I place a blocks of oak. Like 1/2" x 1/2" squares. Gives the bottom more to cling to and adds joint strength. Then I back the entire center section with aluminum plate that gets drilled and tapped for hardware later. No nuts to get to ever. This way you can close the transom right off from the world if you want. Then right in the center of the boat I place a wedge (think door stop LOL) against the trans and to the bottom. The transom can't flex much. Less flex makes for less epoxy stresses.

                I'll shred a rudder before the trans comes apart. Clearly I'm still scarred from previous failures..... I've had every kind of hydro come apart at the trans. Pi$$es me off. Break away rudders can only do so much.

                I'll try to get a pic for you guys.
                Noisy person

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                • T.S.Davis
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6221

                  #593
                  Larry, did you use a finishing epoxy? Finishing epoxy has a wax in it. 207 might have it.
                  Noisy person

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                  • TRUCKPULL
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 2971

                    #594
                    Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                    Larry, did you use a finishing epoxy? Finishing epoxy has a wax in it. 207 might have it.
                    I used WS 205 & 206 Hardener, with 50 % alcohol.

                    Larry
                    Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                    Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                    Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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                    • jaike5
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 561

                      #595
                      Clearly I have to add more support to the transom before I have the same thing happen.

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                      • ray schrauwen
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9471

                        #596
                        It's in the instructions
                        Nortavlag Bulc

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                        • ray schrauwen
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9471

                          #597
                          Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                          I reinforce the b'geezus out of the transom. At the corners where the sides meet the trans I place a blocks of oak. Like 1/2" x 1/2" squares. Gives the bottom more to cling to and adds joint strength. Then I back the entire center section with aluminum plate that gets drilled and tapped for hardware later. No nuts to get to ever. This way you can close the transom right off from the world if you want. Then right in the center of the boat I place a wedge (think door stop LOL) against the trans and to the bottom. The transom can't flex much. Less flex makes for less epoxy stresses.

                          I'll shred a rudder before the trans comes apart. Clearly I'm still scarred from previous failures..... I've had every kind of hydro come apart at the trans. Pi$$es me off. Break away rudders can only do so much.

                          I'll try to get a pic for you guys.
                          Break away rudders need to be tight enough to stop the rudder from moving while running. The faster these get pushed the more stress a rudder hit creates.

                          Do you even use a brass screw anymore? I find I need to tighten that screw to a point it snaps so on some boats I switched it out for SS bolts.
                          Nortavlag Bulc

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                          • jaike5
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 561

                            #598
                            Thanks tips !! I'm looking for more beef than the instructions. Life experience is what I Look for. Like Terry's idea of putting in blocks in the corners , wedge at the center line for example. Hope those pics are coming !!

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                            • T.S.Davis
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6221

                              #599
                              Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                              Do you even use a brass screw anymore?
                              I crank the top screw like it owes me money and then tighten the brass the best I can. That breakaway isn't just for my protection. I really think that if I locked it in and hit someone I would just cut them in half. My boat would survive but the carnage of an error........yuck. I hate totaling peoples gear.

                              Jay, are you still running the narrow version? I used to call it the Stealth. That boat is so narrow the transom may never break.
                              Noisy person

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                              • jaike5
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 561

                                #600
                                Hi Terry, I have two of the latest P versions and a early limited version. can't believe I have so many hydros !! think I have the build bug.
                                I may have to build more this coming winter ! Terry do you build up the spec version as well ?

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