Cheeta the Cheeeze Build

[rearwheelin]

Is this a serious statement?

What part ?

[Livewire121]

Oh boy

[rearwheelin]

Oh boy

Sometimes I need a good reminder of how things can go down this is one of my favorite threads

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...041#post290041

[rearwheelin]

I just need to say I miss you Howard Lee and I hope you come back and show these guys how it's done ! Ha ha ha !!

[Chrisg81983]

Not everyone one hear has time and patience to do a 90 mph boat build, for some it would be funding. For me it's time and money. I enjoy watching the guys who have been building long before me hit the SAW trap knowing that they are restricted to boat rules but not building skill. Personally for me when you start pushing past 70 the fun factor goes down because I feel like I'm risking my investment.

This is exactly my point you say 90 is easy but after 70 it gets risky. There is a huge difference between 70 and 90. When I build boats I build everything with 100 plus mph crashes in mind. I can pretty much put money on it that I can crash my 135 at 90 time and time again with no damage at all. Granted something can always happen. What I am trying to say is....... sure I can throw a 90mph boat together in a night, but the trick is having the know how to build in such way where it will stay together through extreme abuse. while doing this i also worry about maintaining a reasonable weight . I have hundreds of runs on my 135 with some serious crashes at 100 plus. I have bent rudder blades , props , and so on , but not once had any damage to hull. I am not trying to bust your b@ll$ I just feel your statement about 90 mph boats is very misleading. People don't realize once you are in the 80's the jump to 90's is extreme. Its a totally different game .

[rearwheelin]

This is exactly my point you say 90 is easy but after 70 it gets risky. There is a huge difference between 70 and 90. When I build boats I build everything with 100 plus mph crashes in mind. I can pretty much put money on it that I can crash my 135 at 90 time and time again with no damage at all. Granted something can always happen. What I am trying to say is....... sure I can throw a 90mph boat together in a night, but the trick is having the know how to build in such way where it will stay together through extreme abuse. while doing this i also worry about maintaining a reasonable weight . I have hundreds of runs on my 135 with some serious crashes at 100 plus. I have bent rudder blades , props , and so on , but not once had any damage to hull. I am not trying to bust your b@ll$ I just feel your statement about 90 mph boats is very misleading. People don't realize once you are in the 80's the jump to 90's is extreme. Its a totally different game .

This is fair statement .

[Livewire121]

This is exactly my point you say 90 is easy but after 70 it gets risky. There is a huge difference between 70 and 90. When I build boats I build everything with 100 plus mph crashes in mind. I can pretty much put money on it that I can crash my 135 at 90 time and time again with no damage at all. Granted something can always happen. What I am trying to say is....... sure I can throw a 90mph boat together in a night, but the trick is having the know how to build in such way where it will stay together through extreme abuse. while doing this i also worry about maintaining a reasonable weight . I have hundreds of runs on my 135 with some serious crashes at 100 plus. I have bent rudder blades , props , and so on , but not once had any damage to hull. I am not trying to bust your b@ll$ I just feel your statement about 90 mph boats is very misleading. People don't realize once you are in the 80's the jump to 90's is extreme. Its a totally different game .

100%
I'm helping a friend build a Fantasm with the goal of reaching 90-100mph. And there's no rushing the build, laying up the hull properly is pretty time consuming. Slapping in the hardware is relatively simple, building a strong hull isn't. 2014-05-03 18.41.03.jpg

[iridebikes247]

Chris and I run 4 SAW cats a few times a week with the slow boat going 83 mph, and the two hprs capable of well over 100, my mystic 138 100 mph but thats pushing it for it. Anyway the mystic and hpr are 25lbs and if they crash hard it can get pretty ugly if not built correctly. Building a high speed SAW cat that takes hits its like a hobby in its own, its rewarding going fast but just as rewarding when you bring the boat in and not a single part has been moved or dislodged- just throw it back in the water after a 100 mph dead stop crash, kind of cool imo.

[electric]

Thanks for the pictures(riptide). I am setting up a Cheetah as we speak and I don't have much experience with Cat's so this gives me a good starting point for the strut depth.

[rearwheelin]

Chris and I run 4 SAW cats a few times a week with the slow boat going 83 mph, and the two hprs capable of well over 100, my mystic 138 100 mph but thats pushing it for it. Anyway the mystic and hpr are 25lbs and if they crash hard it can get pretty ugly if not built correctly. Building a high speed SAW cat that takes hits its like a hobby in its own, its rewarding going fast but just as rewarding when you bring the boat in and not a single part has been moved or dislodged- just throw it back in the water after a 100 mph dead stop crash, kind of cool imo.

Absolutely ! I agree .

[riptide1]

Your welcome. I'm going to drop the strut a bit for the next run because temps were good with the x450/3 blade and I want to see what more bite will do. I have moved the ESC behind the motor to set the CG right. I realized I was measuring wrong and had to remeasure from the bow tips to where the sponson ends to set it. I also need to try the shorter rudder and the lighter 4s packs. With the lighter 4s2p setup I'm at 10lbs which is a whole pound less then where I started with the forward ESC mount and 5s2p setup.
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Quite a bit different in weight than my Conquest setup
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Thanks for the pictures(riptide). I am setting up a Cheetah as we speak and I don't have much experience with Cat's so this gives me a good starting point for the strut depth.