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  • 785boats
    Wet Track Racing
    • Nov 2008
    • 3169

    #1

    JetChopper30

    The "Wet Track Racing" boat works, has taken delivery of the new JetChopper30 hull.
    The build has commenced.
    First impressions?
    Light & strong, but for racing & rough water the hull could do with a bit of re-enforcing for the motor mounts. Glass, Rails, Rods, what ever you usually do.
    The hull/deck join is solid, the finish is beautiful & the edges are sharp.
    I love the shape of this thing.


    Well the first thing I do with any new hull is bag it. I'm terrible for dripping Epoxy or resin all over everything. Worst of all I always get Epoxy fingerprints on everything. So a bit of plastic & tape solves that problem.
    Next, where ever something is going to be glued or glassed into the hull, I sand with 240 paper & then wipe down with acetone to remove any wax or grease.

    A 1/8" ply transom doubler always goes in my hulls & this one is no different. Once that was glued in, I drilled the holes for the stinger & temporarily mounted it. Then I set the motor & mount & battery & ESC, servo, shaft & prop in place to get positions at 30% COG for motor & battery. I made sure I could alter the COG down to about 28% & up to 34% plus just by moving the battery.

    Now that the motor position was set, I could bend the stuffing tube & cut it to length. I get all the angles set on the mount & epoxy it in, with the stinger, shaft, stuffing tube, & collet all in place to keep everything lined up, In the same process the stuffing tube is epoxied into the transom. To support the front of the stuffing tube, I mold some epoxy putty around it & to the hull. Solid.

    I decided to use 6mm carbon fibre rods to strengthen the hull, motor mounts, & battery tray for this one. So they were glued in with a liberal amount of epoxy.
    At this stage the motor & mount were removed along with the shaft & the rods & side mounts were glassed in with a layer of cloth. A battery tray was cut from a piece of 1/8" ply & epoxied in along with 3 double sided velcro straps to hold the battery in.
    The motor & mount were bolted back in & the hull has very little flex in it now.
    The stinger I had was too long for this size hull so I lopped 12mm off it. I also drilled out the sloppy bushings & inserted a length of 1/4" brass tube and a speedmaster bushing. I've become a fan of these over a pair of lead teflon bushes. They seem to last longer.

    That's it so far. I have to wait for the rudder & tabs to arrive before I can finish it off. All I can do while I'm waiting is make up the safety loop which is compulsory for racing here in Oz.
    Here's a few pics of the story so far.
    Cheers.
    Paul.
    Attached Files
    See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
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    http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=320
  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #2
    Looks great Paul. One thing I forgot to mention during our last conversation was not to mount the motor so far back as to make access to the motor mount screws impossible to get to. Mine's so far back that I have to remove the mount side rails to get to the bolts holding the motor to the cooling plate/mount. Looks like you won't have that problem
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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    • 785boats
      Wet Track Racing
      • Nov 2008
      • 3169

      #3
      I did that once too Tony. Never again. I had to put an extra bend in an Allen key to be able to get at the mounting bolts. Took forever to change the motor.
      Here's a couple more pics. The rods & mounts all glassed in with the battery tray & straps added. And the compulsory safety loop for racing here in Australia.
      Paul.
      Attached Files
      See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
      http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
      http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=320

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      • Scott T
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 590

        #4
        Looks nice Paul, I look forward to seeing it in the flesh. 8XL in there?
        Scott Tapsall
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        • 785boats
          Wet Track Racing
          • Nov 2008
          • 3169

          #5
          Hi Scott.
          It's actually an old 7Xl. It was the first motor I grabbed to bolt in for lining everything up. But an 8Xl will be the motor of choice for the Club spec class. Will also be trying the Proboat 1500kv for 'Restricted' And a 4082 2200kv for EA. Got a couple of outrunners to try too.
          It won't be finished but Ill bring it up to Lakeside on Sunday for a look. I trust you'll be running in the Time Trials? someone's got to pinch some titles of Mark. He holds too many of them
          Happy Easter.
          Paul.
          See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
          http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
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          • Scott T
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 590

            #6
            Cool, I am keen to see how it goes in Restricted. Will be a missile in EA!

            Yes, I'll be there on Sunday, I hope the conditions are better than last time, or I may as well leave the boats in the car! I'm only going to be running one boat in a class Mark holds the recoed for, but I'll give it a go!
            Scott Tapsall
            Pine Rivers Model Powerboat Club - Facebook Page
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            • 785boats
              Wet Track Racing
              • Nov 2008
              • 3169

              #7
              The rest of the parts arrived so I finished the JC30 & gave it a test run on Saturday. All that was required was to add the tabs & rudder to the transom. Then add the servo mount, servo & linkage, then a bit of plumbing. With the rx & ESC added she was all ready to go. It was running a bit wet so I cut about 15mm off the rudder to help free it up a bit, & gain a bit more speed.
              Here's a few pics of the final layout & of it sitting on the bench with a few of my other boats waiting for it's maiden. And a bit of video.

              Attached Files
              See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
              http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
              http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=320

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              • 785boats
                Wet Track Racing
                • Nov 2008
                • 3169

                #8
                Well, after filling in the hooks, the hull is much more aired out & not sticking to the water. I tested it out with our Clubs Restricted Class set (Proboat 1500kv motor & 45A ESC). The speed seems comparable with the same setup in my 26" hull that I normally run, as Luke & I had a bit of a run together & his 25" hull runs the same as my 26" hull. The advantage of this hull will be when the water cuts up a bit rough on windy days. I hope.
                Here was a bit of a test run.
                Last edited by 785boats; 05-13-2012, 02:37 PM.
                See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
                http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
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                • properchopper
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6968

                  #9
                  Paul, runs nice with the PB1500. Loosened up nice. Should be a fun race class. Good luck
                  2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                  2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                  '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                  • Rumdog
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6453

                    #10
                    Looks like a good handling mono there!

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                    • 785boats
                      Wet Track Racing
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3169

                      #11
                      Thanks guys.
                      It's a completely different boat now.
                      The big test will be in the rougher water at our Pine Rivers lake where it will race. I'll have to tighten it down a tad for that. But yours seems to handle the chop pretty well Tony, so I'm confident. Then I still have to try the 4082 2200kv motor for Leo. That will have to be next weekend.
                      Cheers.
                      Paul.
                      See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
                      http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
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                      • 785boats
                        Wet Track Racing
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 3169

                        #12
                        Managed to get a couple of test runs in yesterday with a bigger motor.
                        I ended up putting a 4074 2200kv Leopard in with an X440/3 blade prop. As expected, she got a bit flighty but I'm sure I can tighten it down a bit with a few adjustments. Didn't have time yesterday. I really like this hull.
                        Here's a bit of a video of it.

                        See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
                        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
                        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=320

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                        • ozzie-crawl
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2865

                          #13
                          Hey Paul looks like it will be a decent runner.
                          Whats the rules up your way for club spec racing. I have a unused Hotr cat hull i would not mind setting up for spec racing once my twin cat is finished. Not the best turning hull but should be fun

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                          • properchopper
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6968

                            #14
                            Paul, she's surely got some more speed with the 4074; in fact you could go bigger on the prop, but keep the diameter small to avoid torque roll. An X642 might be a good one to try. Needs more forward CG & down on the tabs to keep more hull in the water and stabilize it some.

                            I ran in to the opposite problem with the AQ 2030 motor; needed to loosen it up a bit so up with the drive angle a fair amoint but kept the CG forward. Tried some left turns to see if I can run an offshore course & dialed in too much rudder so got some spinouts, but overall I'm liking it and getting closer to the optimum spec race trim.

                            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                            • ozzie-crawl
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2865

                              #15
                              Hey tony cant get that link to work.

                              How do the AQ 2030 motors hold up. wouldnt mind trying one in a 32" hotr cat for club spec if its allowed

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