My Delta force 26 SAW build for P,Q,S

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  • maddmatt
    Banned
    • Jun 2011
    • 211

    #31
    Good morning, I'm back at the df 26 today and It should be wrapped today. Got hull glassed ( turned out OK w/ a couple of sags) and determine my ballast. Here are a couple photos. Not anything special.001.jpg002.jpg003.jpg

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    • properchopper
      • Apr 2007
      • 6968

      #32
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      Originally posted by maddmatt
      Howdy, I agree!!! We must be reading from the same page. Inside is backed but I'm not sure it going to do the job. Brain storm??? I'll think of something. Not much meat to tie into on the rudder arm. Will we see?? Off to the Docs i go. Got a bad cold. Boat should almost complete today. Got a lot more stuff to post. Thanks, MM. PS Whos a good sticker guy??????????????????
      Just a thought, something like these boom supports, with some drilling & tapping on the arm, & a little creativity (Yeah, I know it's easy for me to say..."
      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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      • properchopper
        • Apr 2007
        • 6968

        #33
        Originally posted by maddmatt
        Howdy, I agree!!! We must be reading from the same page. Inside is backed but I'm not sure it going to do the job. Brain storm??? I'll think of something. Not much meat to tie into on the rudder arm. Will we see?? Off to the Docs i go. Got a bad cold. Boat should almost complete today. Got a lot more stuff to post. Thanks, MM. PS Whos a good sticker guy??????????????????
        Just a thought, something like these boom supports, with some drilling & tapping on the arm, & a little creativity (Yeah, I know it's easy for me to say..."

        DSC02979.JPG
        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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        • maddmatt
          Banned
          • Jun 2011
          • 211

          #34
          004.jpg005.jpg006.jpg007.jpg008.jpgWow!!! Great idea. Some brain storming and I'll get it done. Thanks. Here is the boat 98% complete. What do you think? Some stickers, strut support and screws for hatch. Thats it. Boat is set all neutral. 0 degree strut, 3mm up vertical, 0 degree pads and rudder. I will start there and change as need. The boat has a large degree of movement for the CG. Right now its 30. I have the total of 6mm vertical movement for strut. Which should be good. Anyway thanks for the pics. I'm ready to go or crash!!! Here is the pics.

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          • maddmatt
            Banned
            • Jun 2011
            • 211

            #35
            013.jpg009.jpg011.jpg A few more pics. Has anyone made an attempt to add small thin scags on the bottom of a v hull for tracking????????? I would guess placed maybe 1" from center approx. 1/4-3/8" tall and very close to transom??? You think this help straight line tracking. Thanks again for the idea. Mr. chopper. I'm on it. I wish I could take it for a rip. Hottub!! I will probably do a leak and submerge test. Thanks ,MM.

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            • JackBlack26
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 905

              #36
              Wow! My 26" prince gets out of shape fairly easy, cant keep it on the water with a PB 1500kv motor on 4S with an X445 prop. It was ridiculous with a 2600 on 4s even with a x438. Good luck keeping it planted Its a very fun boat though.

              Just noticed on this page the final mounting position of your batteries. From my experience, the boat likes the batteries just behind the motor as close to the bottom as possible. It handles way different with them as you have them up high like that. I know you're limited for space but with such a small boat, and such a large motor, I dont see why you couldnt get away with a smaller 120A ESC to save room and make it handle better. I run mine with a Turnigy 60A, so a 120A should suffice.

              Boat looks awesome, BTW

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              • maddmatt
                Banned
                • Jun 2011
                • 211

                #37
                Hi, Thanks for looking and the awesome. It should go pretty good if it will stay on the water. The boat is setup for SAW. 2 passes as fast it will go w/o flying or diving away.) Regarding the batts., It has removeable foam up front and batts can be placed in the valley if needed. I has thinking the same way. Lower CG the better. It will be turning a large prop (lots of AMPS) so a 120esc will burn for sure. After some trials w/ the leo 4802 and t180. I'm going to up size to a 1521 w/ fc 300 amper. My real concern is it disappearing. I'll get some vids for sure. It will be fun to watch no matter the results. Later, MM.

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                • properchopper
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6968

                  #38
                  Originally posted by maddmatt
                  Hi, Thanks for looking and the awesome. It should go pretty good if it will stay on the water. The boat is setup for SAW. 2 passes as fast it will go w/o flying or diving away.) Regarding the batts., It has removeable foam up front and batts can be placed in the valley if needed. I has thinking the same way. Lower CG the better. It will be turning a large prop (lots of AMPS) so a 120esc will burn for sure. After some trials w/ the leo 4802 and t180. I'm going to up size to a 1521 w/ fc 300 amper. My real concern is it disappearing. I'll get some vids for sure. It will be fun to watch no matter the results. Later, MM.
                  Just tape an Alka Seltzer to the top of the hatch & look for the bubbles (yes I'm serious)
                  2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                  2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                  '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                  • JackBlack26
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 905

                    #39
                    Originally posted by properchopper
                    Just tape an Alka Seltzer to the top of the hatch & look for the bubbles (yes I'm serious)
                    Hahahaha! That's an awesome tip!
                    By the way, Proper I finally got my NAMBA card. When do you guys normally head out to Legg Lake?


                    From my experience, it's usually the batteries burning under water that tells me where to dredge. I managed to pull mine out after about an hour with a small boat anchor. I lost the lid but Jan over at Kintec got me another one rather quickly. Pulled it out with the boat anchor just bellow my left arm

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                    • properchopper
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6968

                      #40
                      Originally posted by JackBlack26
                      Hahahaha! That's an awesome tip!
                      By the way, Proper I finally got my NAMBA card. When do you guys normally head out to Legg Lake?


                      From my experience, it's usually the batteries burning under water that tells me where to dredge. I managed to pull mine out after about an hour with a small boat anchor. I lost the lid but Jan over at Kintec got me another one rather quickly. Pulled it out with the boat anchor just bellow my left arm
                      At a SAW a while ago Randy stuck one in the mud. Dredging with a big "rake" couldn't locate it. 3 1/2 hours later smoky bubbles came up over the spot. Finally got it back.

                      E-mail me your phone # at the address in my avatar, I'll keep you in the loop on lake visits.
                      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                      • rc2266
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 312

                        #41
                        Just looked at your layout, I agree you might want to move batteries back some, if start jumping across wakes you might nose dive(don't ask me how I know)
                        I'm married with children, you can't scare me!

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                        • maddmatt
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 211

                          #42
                          rc2266, I agree with your quote. Nothing scares me!!! About the batts., Its at 35% CoG in the photo. Did some testing and it can go from 25- 45 cog if needed. It will be use for SAW only so I'm concerned about flight. A little nose heavy. Smooth water only. Later, Maddmatt. It will be a while before I can try it and dial it in. We got 17" of ice. DRAG!!!!

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                          • maddmatt
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 211

                            #43
                            Hey Guy, I got it out for several passes. It was cold but it ran really good. I got a first and last. As Ricky Bobby says "If you ain't first your last". Actually I got a first and second for 660' passes on a classis muscle machine in 2 classes. Anyway, this what I do for a manual speedruns. I'll have to wait till summer for my remote001.jpg005.jpg runs. Later, MM.

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                            • maddmatt
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 211

                              #44
                              Spider lake (my home) is open except a couple of icebergs. Anyway today I got it out for 2 passes and it performed AWESOME!!!!!! I GPS'd it and it was way fast!!!!! Not going to show. Running on 4s, setup by eye, starter prop and some simple weight and balance tricks. WOW!! My vid sucks. No sound and no camera man. The first pass was 2/3 throttle and the 2nd pass I opened it up(it started way before it got to the camera). WOOOOW!!! I thought it could go thru its wake. I was WRONG. Did I get the record for skips. You really can't see the last run for true speed but I'm really happy!!! After winning the skipping contest, it wouldn't steer so I was done. Servo mount came off. I'll have to adhere it differently. Here is my bad Vid. I was doing a intro so be patience. Later, More vids tomorrow maybe!! MADDMATT!!

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                              • srislash
                                Not there yet
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 7673

                                #45
                                That thing's movin ,especially for a little guy.Nice lake.I probably would have a hard time leaving for work if I lived there.

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