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  • carlcisneros
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2010
    • 1218

    #421
    Total Package;
    I am waiting for Ben to get in the new HV ESC's and will be running 8S on the T600 then.

    Carl

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    • keithbradley
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jul 2010
      • 3663

      #422
      Originally posted by carlcisneros
      Total Package;
      I am waiting for Ben to get in the new HV ESC's and will be running 8S on the T600 then.

      Carl
      Didnt you say they were 1760kv Carl? I would try them on 5s and adjust accordingly. I think you will end up liking bigger prop more than higher RPM on that boat. Im not sure the outrunner will run on 8s...isnt it a 10 pole? Thats a lot of RPM...it woudl be equivetant to turning Howard's motor at about 130,000RPMs as far as the ESC is concerned. Some ESCs may be able to do that....but Im pretty sure most of them cant.
      www.keithbradleyboats.com

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      • rearwheelin
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2008
        • 1941

        #423
        Originally posted by Howard Lee
        If you have a strut with smooth sides you will want to take a dremel and cut some small grooves into it. This will help it from moving and change your prop angle.
        If possible with your FDM hardware I would drill and tap strut bolt threads to 5 or 6mm and simply scuffing the clamp area with 100 grit has worked for me along with bigger bolts.
        "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
        --Albert Einstein

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        • TotalPackage
          Banned
          • Jul 2010
          • 601

          #424
          Those t 600s arent to0 bad coz 1 pushed my 40 inch mono decently on 6s so two on 8 s and a 2p should be nice.Howard any new video?

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          • TotalPackage
            Banned
            • Jul 2010
            • 601

            #425
            Originally posted by keithbradley
            Didnt you say they were 1760kv Carl? I would try them on 5s and adjust accordingly. I think you will end up liking bigger prop more than higher RPM on that boat. Im not sure the outrunner will run on 8s...isnt it a 10 pole? Thats a lot of RPM...it woudl be equivetant to turning Howard's motor at about 130,000RPMs as far as the ESC is concerned. Some ESCs may be able to do that....but Im pretty sure most of them cant.
            No the t600's are 1100 and 1400 kv respectively theyre not gonna run like those leaopard plus they have more poles so 130,000 rpm is doubtful as most esc's out there cant handle the switching needs of a high pole count motor at such a high rpm. i know you basically said the same thing but the kvs arent a's high as you thought for the t 600's.
            They can handle 8 s but the proper loading prop

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            • Howard Lee
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 198

              #426
              Originally posted by TotalPackage
              Those t 600s arent to0 bad coz 1 pushed my 40 inch mono decently on 6s so two on 8 s and a 2p should be nice.Howard any new video?
              Nothing new but i was thinking about making a vid of old high speed flips and crashes. Not sure if anyone would like to see that?

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              • TotalPackage
                Banned
                • Jul 2010
                • 601

                #427
                Originally posted by Howard Lee
                Nothing new but i was thinking about making a vid of old high speed flips and crashes. Not sure if anyone would like to see that?
                Heck yeah I get a big thrill watching the german saw attempts alot end up in flips or just plain ole airborn right into the bank.

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                • Jacked1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 772

                  #428
                  Originally posted by TotalPackage
                  No the t600's are 1100 and 1400 kv respectively theyre not gonna run like those leaopard plus they have more poles so 130,000 rpm is doubtful as most esc's out there cant handle the switching needs of a high pole count motor at such a high rpm. i know you basically said the same thing but the kvs arent a's high as you thought for the t 600's.
                  They can handle 8 s but the proper loading prop
                  He was talking about the 1760kv outrunners that fightercat is selling that Carl was taking about. And he was saying that the ten pole outrunners on 8s would have the esc switching as much as a leopard going 130,000 rpm.
                  Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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                  • TotalPackage
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 601

                    #429
                    Originally posted by carlcisneros
                    Total Package;
                    I am waiting for Ben to get in the new HV ESC's and will be running 8S on the T600 then.

                    Carl
                    I see t600 what you see? I mean he wrote it to me . It looks like he says t600 there is no t600 with 1760kv Isee what youre talking about 3 pages back but I think hes telling me that hes going to run t600's instead . Maybe im wrong. Im my adress to Keith but it was just and honest mistake and I said i wasnt telling him nothing that keith already hasnt. I know Keith is smart and i love his boats . Not trying to challenge his smarts just an honest mistake sorry guys

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                    • FighterCat57
                      "The" Fighter Cat
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 3480

                      #430
                      Originally posted by Jacked1
                      He was talking about the 1760kv outrunners that fightercat is selling that Carl was taking about. And he was saying that the ten pole outrunners on 8s would have the esc switching as much as a leopard going 130,000 rpm.
                      That's a big thing to watch. Make sure the pwm setting & the esc work with high pole count motors. The T600's I carry (3740, 3736 & 3730) are all 10 pole. The T600 4030 from HK is 12 pole IIRC. Some ESC mfr's recommend changing to 8khz pwm to allow it to switch enough to run the high rpm outrunners. Most all ESC makers that make heli esc's know about the high rpm high pole combination. Some air only ESC's don't accommodate, like the pentium 100hv.

                      Total; the T600 designation is a class of motor, like saying 540 or 380 or T500. (there's some interchangeable references being made in this thread)
                      The major difference with the ones I carry, is they are tapped for m3 mounting screws, so fit in 540 sized 25mm spaced mounts. The HK 4030 T600 uses M4's.

                      The ESC's that are being made for me are capable of 50,000rpm on 12 pole count motors.

                      Hope this helps.
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                      • TotalPackage
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 601

                        #431
                        Originally posted by FighterCat57
                        That's a big thing to watch. Make sure the pwm setting & the esc work with high pole count motors. The T600's I carry (3740, 3736 & 3730) are all 10 pole. The T600 4030 from HK is 12 pole IIRC. Some ESC mfr's recommend changing to 8khz pwm to allow it to switch enough to run the high rpm outrunners. Most all ESC makers that make heli esc's know about the high rpm high pole combination. Some air only ESC's don't accommodate, like the pentium 100hv.

                        Total; the T600 designation is a class of motor, like saying 540 or 380 or T500. (there's some interchangeable references being made in this thread)
                        The major difference with the ones I carry, is they are tapped for m3 mounting screws, so fit in 540 sized 25mm spaced mounts. The HK 4030 T600 uses M4's.

                        The ESC's that are being made for me are capable of 50,000rpm on 12 pole count motors.

                        Hope this helps.
                        OH okay not the turnigy t600 you mean like t600 helli class motor oh okay well guys i was speaking of t600 1400kv turnigys sorry again im a little dense
                        Not to be funny lets see what howard has up next
                        We can start a thread on t600's and high pole outrunners
                        Last edited by TotalPackage; 04-08-2011, 08:33 AM.

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                        • carlcisneros
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1218

                          #432
                          will start out with the 6S package on the 1400KV T600's then will step up to the 8S package with same motors once Ben gets the new HV ESC's in.

                          The next boat will use Bens 1760KV T600 class motors in it.

                          Did I say that right?

                          and yes, a new thread on high pole count out runner motors would be VERY bennificial to everyone.

                          I really like the outrunner motors.

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                          • TotalPackage
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 601

                            #433
                            Originally posted by carlcisneros
                            will start out with the 6S package on the 1400KV T600's then will step up to the 8S package with same motors once Ben gets the new HV ESC's in.

                            The next boat will use Bens 1760KV T600 class motors in it.

                            Did I say that right?

                            and yes, a new thread on high pole count out runner motors would be VERY bennificial to everyone.

                            I really like the outrunner motors.
                            ive started it so we dont clutter howards thread.

                            Sorry Howard . Did you get the bloopers video ready yet?

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                            • Howard Lee
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 198

                              #434
                              I have a vid of flips but there are a lot more just not on vid. This 32 is a very strong hull but take the time and reinforce some parts. I have this hull set to do 90 and no flips but with changing the prop to go faster it makes the prop to big for this boat and out of control. Its better to have higher rpm and a smaller prop. If i could get more rpm then i could run a smaller prop and get more top end speed. RPM is the only way to go for speed. It would be nice if someone made a gearbox that turns 30,000 into 50,000 rpm and make it affordable. Just think if we had a 2 speed transmission. Maybe i will take my revo transmission and put in my boat. lol


                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

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                              • TotalPackage
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 601

                                #435
                                Dagg Howard that little hull is tuff no? Man som of those you got one of the biggest roosters ive seen man that thing looked like it was 15 feet off the water

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