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  • keithbradley
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2010
    • 3663

    #31
    Just got back from her maiden. I started wiht a s240 prop on 8s2p, which gave a fairly decent top speed but there was a lot of cavitation on take offs and turns. It wasnt as noticable when on the throttle hard but at lower speeds and turning it was obvious the prop is too small.
    I brought it in and checked temps, turned the trim tab screws in a bit (it was rocking a bit at higher speeds), and switched to the x457 I had with me. Take offs were much better but there was still a bit of cavitation, turns were much better. I think the x4 series is the prop for this boat, but I think it would benifit from a little bit larger one at this RPM (maybe x460).
    I brought it in after a few laps and turned the trim tab screws in a bit more, checked temps, and turned the turn fins up a bit. I noticed the turn fins were well into the water with the boat planed out so I angled them up a bit more. After a couple more laps, I hit the LVC..OOPS!

    It turns at speed like its on rails. I think this hull could handle more speed than my DF40 could, and it could DEFINITELY handle some big water. This boat would be fun on 6s2p in a large lake with real boats jumping waves.
    As far as speed, without any adjustments I am guessing I was in the 50's... 60's should be no problem at all. The Leopard doesnt seem to be any less powerfull than the Neu 2215
    Temps were 130's at the esc caps, around 110-115 on the esc boards. Motor was in the 80's and 90's every time I temped it, and the batteries were too.

    Here's the bad:
    Last night, I ran the 32" cat that I just finished. It was much smaller and lighter, and easy to take to the pond. All I could think today after my (4) 4s lipos were ran down thte the LVC is that if I were running the cat, I would still have 2 fresh batteries left. I would really like to have a couple sets of batteries to run in this but I just dont have the money to spend.

    This may be crazy talk, but if anyone is interested in this let me know, I will consider selling it and using the $$ to put into a bit smaller builds. I would have no problem making a video to show how fast it is and how well it handles. Sharp turns at 60mph are not a problem. Its an awesome specticle to run and watch, but after loading it up, Lugging it out to the water, and running down FOUR lipos, I remembered why I sold my last big mono!

    I would have to sit down and think about what I have into it, but it would probably be somewhere around $750.
    www.keithbradleyboats.com

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    • Make-a-Wake
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      • Nov 2009
      • 5557

      #32
      Isnt a maiden with no vid sacreligious?

      That Leopard sound like a Beast if it was pushin that big hull that fast! You may consider an x457/3 blade............... vid please for your next run
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      • keithbradley
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jul 2010
        • 3663

        #33
        Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
        Isnt a maiden with no vid sacreligious?

        That Leopard sound like a Beast if it was pushin that big hull that fast! You may consider an x457/3 blade............... vid please for your next run
        Yeah I was impressed with the Leopard. I really thought it would be a less powerful motor than the Neu 2215 but Im not sure it is now...

        I have been sneaking down to the water whenever I can...weather isnt quite there yet, but I get small windows of opportunity. I went alone so I didnt have my camera man there, otherwise I would have taken a vid.
        I put it in the swap shop...not 100% on selling it but I dont know I will really get it out all that much. Its just so big/heavy/inconveinient and burns through batteries so fast...its a lot easier to grab a smaller boat. This one definitely is a different animal, but I have a few new build of smaller boats I plan on running, so this one will do its fair share of sitting. I will make a video though, and probably GPS it if I get time/weather maybe next weekend.
        www.keithbradleyboats.com

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        • Make-a-Wake
          FE Rules!
          • Nov 2009
          • 5557

          #34
          Sorry to hear you may pass it on so soon..................but i know first hand about lugging my 23lb boat 100yds at times to the landing area and feelin' the burn in my arm

          I am really getting a kick out of my larger builds........but i will admit this, i threw my 30" brushless 6s Villain in the drink the other day and goosed it for a good 5 minutes and it was a blast.........................
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          • keithbradley
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jul 2010
            • 3663

            #35
            Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
            Sorry to hear you may pass it on so soon..................but i know first hand about lugging my 23lb boat 100yds at times to the landing area and feelin' the burn in my arm

            I am really getting a kick out of my larger builds........but i will admit this, i threw my 30" brushless 6s Villain in the drink the other day and goosed it for a good 5 minutes and it was a blast.........................
            We will see. This isnt one of those deals where I keep lowering the price on it untill I give it away. If it doesnt sell at $750, Ill keep it. It is a very cool boat, and its ability to motor though the water is quite impressive.

            If it sells I have some ideas for some "out of the ordinary" type projects I would like to build next, but if it doesnt sell I still like it. I wouldnt even consider getting rid of it if it werent for the other boats I have that will take most of my time. The way the economy is, and they way valuable items have been selling in the swap shop, it probably isnt going anywhere.
            www.keithbradleyboats.com

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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9488

              #36
              I would love to see a vid of this one going full tilt in the corners
              these hulls are pretty cheap and I've thought about getting one
              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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              • keithbradley
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jul 2010
                • 3663

                #37
                Originally posted by Brushless55
                I would love to see a vid of this one going full tilt in the corners
                these hulls are pretty cheap and I've thought about getting one
                I'll take one when I can
                Its cold here today so I wont be going out.

                The hull is about $300 shipped, but they require a fair amount of work/parts. The rudder is about the only part of the hardware that will work in its factory state. If you look at it that way, its really not that cheap, considering a 45" DF is right in that price range.
                Besides blocking off all the water entry points of the hull, You need trim tabs, turn fins, strut and flex (or machine the stock flex to work with regular props like I did), motor mount, servo, ect. Mostly all the same stuff you would need if you bought a bare hull other than the rudder (which is quite nice).

                It really boils down it whether you like the looks/design of the hull, which is why I chose this one. I like the fact that it looks like a real boat, when the DF....well, not so much.

                If youre thinking of getting one, let me know. I could sell this one without motor/esc if you wanted it that way...although I wouldnt reccomend a motor smaller than the 5692.
                www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #38
                  yeah, that's what I like a bout this hull is the looks
                  like a Speed Racer theme could look sweet!
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                  • keithbradley
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 3663

                    #39
                    I only had my 5 year old daughter with me today to film, so heres the vid, take it or leave it.

                    I made a few speed runs (best I could in a small area) with fresh lipos when I first stuck it in, then went to check the video and realized my daughter never hit the button on the camera

                    So this one is with batteries that are half discharged. There is still some more left in it just getting the setup right, but you can tell in this vid it moves alright. There isnt a whole lot of full throttle in this vid, or high speed turns, but it will turn at any speed. My steering rod started to bend today and it was affecting handling noticably. I'll put a larger diameter steering rod on it and really go after it next time.

                    GPS was in the boat, it read 57 after the first run (when the camera was off), and 54 after the run you see in the vid. My intent was to show the GPS at the end of the vid, but either my daughter accidentally hit the stop button, or the batteries went dead and the camera shut off. This is with a prop that I just happen to have, and definitely not the best prop on this boat. Even so, Im sure if I could stay in the throttle for 2-3 seconds I would hit 60.

                    www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                    • Make-a-Wake
                      FE Rules!
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 5557

                      #40
                      My Lord man! Im sittin here laughing my A$$ off.......that thing is so fast and powerful its retarded!!! Wow..............that 5692 is no joke................whew, just caught my breath.......................awesome, but the run with the camera on counts like mine, and yours was 54.........i gave you 4 mph, remember................so i win, 58.9 to 58!
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                      • Jacked1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 772

                        #41
                        Dang! that runs sweet! Wish i had $750!
                        Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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                        • keithbradley
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 3663

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
                          My Lord man! Im sittin here laughing my A$$ off.......that thing is so fast and powerful its retarded!!! Wow..............that 5692 is no joke................whew, just caught my breath.......................awesome, but the run with the camera on counts like mine, and yours was 54.........i gave you 4 mph, remember................so i win, 58.9 to 58!
                          LOL. I thought of that too when I read the GPS the second time Really the camera wasnt on that time either so I guess neither one counts...you can tell from the vid it hauls the mail though. 50" boats normally look slow on video. I think with some room 60 is doable.
                          www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #43
                            that is awesome!!
                            and on 8s power.. looks like you could give the gas racers some issues
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                            • Brushless01
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 487

                              #44
                              Wow thats insane thinking of putting this setup in my Aquacraft Rio 51 what prop did you use to get the 57 mph Keith ? And do you think this setup would take a 65mm prop ?

                              Thanks
                              Prince 25 8XL,Delta force 29 8XL, SV27,Rio 51,Mini Rio,Stock Miss Geico m445,ERBE,Baja 5B SS, Hyper ST, Castle Emaxx.

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                              • Make-a-Wake
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                                • Nov 2009
                                • 5557

                                #45
                                On 8s it should handle an x465 fine imo...................start a bit smaller though at first.
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