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  • DISAR
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 1072

    #1

    MHZ Racemaster

    Building the Racemaster boat (98.6 x 21.6 cm, 38.8" x 8.5") from MHZ but because the boat's dimensions are much different from other mono hulls there are many options for the rudder-motor-batteries location. I have the follwoing questions and if anybody knows it will be great!!

    a) Rudder, where is it better, in the centerline behind the prop or on the right as in most monos? I have space to put it in the center

    b) Batteries, better to be on the centreline of the boat or on the sides (port-stbd)?

    c) Motor, to achieve the c.g. of 27-30%, I can either put the motor far forward and the batteries behind (on centreline or sides), or to put the motor aft and the batteries on the sides. quite confused here...

    I must mention that the boat's quality is excellent
    Attached Files
    Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
    http://www.rcfastboats.com/
  • j.m.
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 838

    #2
    Does this hull have a step?

    If so, put the motor right at the step and the batteries as low as possible in the hull. This skinny thing probably needs as low of a CG as possible, so keep everything close to the water.

    Jon

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    • DISAR
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2007
      • 1072

      #3
      thanks, there is no step,

      MHZ recommended to put the batteries on the sides and rudder in the middle
      Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
      http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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      • j.m.
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 838

        #4
        I would put it together like this:




        Motor right in front of the batts, batts on either side of the shaft. Allow room to move the batts forward and backward to adjust the CG. The batteries weigh far more than your Rx and servo, so put the betteries down low and stuff your Rx up on one side of the hull and your servo on the other. You can put your ESC right smack in the middle of the hull elevated above the batts and motor, or even above the motor to make it easy to remove the batteries. Another option, if you have the room, is to put the ESC on either side of the motor on the floor of the hull.

        (Look at the middle left)


        Are you going to be racing?
        If so, definitely keep the rudder on the right side of the hull for oval racing. Even with the rudder in this position, the boat will turn both ways just as well.

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        • focused
          Dutch Electric Powerboats
          • Jul 2008
          • 237

          #5
          First vids from the MHZ Racemaster/Rapid (no its not me , i do not know the maker)

          They used a Low rev Turnigy outrunner on 12s lipo and rudder behind the prop what is the distance from the transom and rear prop (in cm please)

          If i would built one myself i would do it the same like i/they/we (europeans ) would built the lizard xtreme rudder behind the prop.


          and

          and



          greetz

          Michiel.
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          • DISAR
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2007
            • 1072

            #6
            Thanks for the vids Michiel,

            I think I will follow the MHZ's and your advise , which is also more convenient for me

            rudder behind the prop in center, motor aft, batteries on the sides

            In these videos I think that the batteries are also on the sides. Because this is a long and narrow hull maybe it helps for smoother-less rolling, who knows...

            Regarding the distance of propeller behind the transom I am also a bit confused here, once MHZ advised abt 10 cm and then 5.5 cm which I think is too short for 98 cm boat. What do you think Michiel? I think I will start with abt 9 cm and If no good I will shorten. I have the trimax eco and can adjust length

            something like this layout
            Attached Files
            Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
            http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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            • bonewar
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 549

              #7
              DISAR,

              Very nice boat mate.

              What is it made of. Looks like some sort of carbon Kevlar lay up.

              And i really like the drive line setup . Lots of adjustment.


              Bonewar
              SIMRAD MARITIMO TWIN 1512 NEU'S , M12 MARITIMO SINGLE 1527 NEU , SV27 1509 NEU , SV27 NITRO O.S. 18CV-R 3.0cc WATER COOLED RACE ENGINE.

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              • DISAR
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2007
                • 1072

                #8
                Thanks Bonewar

                It is carbon kevlar (don't know details, I bought it like this), quality is very very good...Looks and feels strong but the surprise is the weight, 1.3 kgr.
                The drive line is the trimax eco from MHZ (part 1077) I thought to give it a try. Lots of adjustments, in-out, port-stbd, high-low don't know though how it will perform
                Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
                http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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                • DISAR
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1072

                  #9
                  found some better photos, and together with the Maritimo
                  Attached Files
                  Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
                  http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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                  • bonewar
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 549

                    #10
                    DISAR,


                    She looks fast just sitting there !!!!

                    Nice lines on the hull.


                    Bonewar
                    SIMRAD MARITIMO TWIN 1512 NEU'S , M12 MARITIMO SINGLE 1527 NEU , SV27 1509 NEU , SV27 NITRO O.S. 18CV-R 3.0cc WATER COOLED RACE ENGINE.

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                    • chris holley
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 59

                      #11
                      Hi iam new on this site, an would like to no more about the racemaster. I would like to get one an was hoping some one can advice more on setups, an if it will be ok to run the boat with my graupner 700bb, an run 3700nicds?

                      chris

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                      • DISAR
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 1072

                        #12
                        Almost finished, decals will be applied soon. Initially I placed the rudder in the centre but I was not very happy with the boat's handling, now moved to the side and tested once and seems better
                        Attached Files
                        Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
                        http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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                        • Gerwin Brommer
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 918

                          #13
                          Holy sh*t !

                          Trying to reach the bottom of the lake with that rudderblade ?
                          That piece is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE.
                          The rest of the boat/setup looks fine !!!!

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                          • DISAR
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1072

                            #14
                            oh thank you! the rudder is not that big as it looks, it's 13cm
                            Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
                            http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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                            • DISAR
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1072

                              #15
                              ready with decals
                              Attached Files
                              Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
                              http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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