Blackjack 26 Dual

[BakedMopar]

Actually I don't think my wiring is the same as yours. Don't you have everything in parallel?

Yes but thats because I'm running 4s2p. Basically was showing the parallel adapter for the esc's. Thats the only picture I have of it.

[blackcat26]

Mudl said to get the 36-56-2600 turnigy's and use 1 4s batt. That may be my next move. I had to try this since I had everthing laying around.

[tiqueman]

Tiqueman, the connectors on the motor were all intact. They were still attached to the esc motor leads just melted off from the esc.
Flex was fine and still very free spinning. I did notice apon removal that motor was the sloppy motor that allowed the 5mm shaft to move slightly in and out.(like it needed a shim inside) I noticed this earlier but didnt think anything about it since I was running thrust bearings between collet and motor face. Wiring-wise mine is the same as yours Baked just not as pretty. I made a "y" split with same gage wire and connectors. All 6mm bullets.

I miss read part of it.. sorry. I thought you had said the motor bullets came undone. I still would put my money on a motor issue. Your wiring and batts were fine for what you were doing. And I will re-state about BJ motors. They are great for stock usage, 4S. Anything else isnt worth the trial IMO.

One other thing as I said somewhere before.. I think on this thread. Im still not sold on the Aquastars. It seems a lot of folks are having issues w/ them.

[BakedMopar]

One other thing as I said somewhere before.. I think on this thread. Im still not sold on the Aquastars. It seems a lot of folks are having issues w/ them.

Thats how I feel about the Marines.

Beside Blackcat26 and Deisel (which got wet) how many people are having issues with Aquastar? I beleive hey are the same as the swordfish that Steve sells.

[Rumdog]

I still think for the setup to be reliable there needs to be at least 1p per motor/esc. Trust me, the bj motors are up top the task. These motors are very high quality. JesseJ ran twin bj motors on 6s each in an IntruderL, and that's a MUCH bigger cat. The problem with running twins in these small cats is space.

[tiqueman]

Thats how I feel about the Marines.

Beside Blackcat26 and Deisel (which got wet) how many people are having issues with Aquastar? I beleive hey are the same as the swordfish that Steve sells.

Im just basing my opinion on ratings and reviews from other websites Ive seen, both Forums and online stores. Just seemed a lot of mysterious dying of the esc from what I had read. Be it on plug in or short term usage. Probably like any other esc, its hit and miss. Im by far not saying they are junk etc, I just havent found enough info on them that would make me purchase them, thats all. Baked, I think you are running them in yours and without any issues. We can all have problems w/ any esc.. seems the high dollar ones have just as much if not more issues than the low dollar units. But, I will continue my trials w/ Turnigys as Id rather replace a $60. unit a few times than a $200 unit.

[tiqueman]

I still think for the setup to be reliable there needs to be at least 1p per motor/esc. Trust me, the bj motors are up top the task. These motors are very high quality. JesseJ ran twin bj motors on 6s each in an IntruderL, and that's a MUCH bigger cat. The problem with running twins in these small cats is space.

I think w/ mudls success in his boats, thats enough proof that the way Blackcat has it wired will work just fine.

And as for my experience w/ the PB motors.. mine didnt handle 5S more than 2 runs and the motor had less than 10 runs on it and was about 2 mo. old. So it was far from used and abused. Therefore, and for that reason, I will not run that motor again. Just as esc's, everyone is going to have different results, some get away w/ things, some dont. Just stating my experiences and why I wont run them or consider them any more.

[BakedMopar]

I still think for the setup to be reliable there needs to be at least 1p per motor/esc.

Im just basing my opinion on ratings and reviews from other websites Ive seen, both Forums and online stores. Just seemed a lot of mysterious dying of the esc from what I had read. Be it on plug in or short term usage. Probably like any other esc, its hit and miss. Im by far not saying they are junk etc, I just havent found enough info on them that would make me purchase them, thats all. Baked, I think you are running them in yours and without any issues. We can all have problems w/ any esc.. seems the high dollar ones have just as much if not more issues than the low dollar units. But, I will continue my trials w/ Turnigys as Id rather replace a $60. unit a few times than a $200 unit.

I am by not all means saying that the Aquastars are good or bad, just wanted to know what you are basing your research on. I only have had 3 runs on mine so I can't make a judgment yet. I have burnt up some name brand ones also. Good thing is they replaced it. As I stated in another thread.

Bottom line is no one brand will be smoke free. Choose a straw and hopefully yours ain't the short one.

[tiqueman]

Then again.. what is "reliable" when your knocking on the door of 70mph???? I dont think its a matter of "if" no matter what components or way its wired... its "when"

[Rumdog]

Are you guys using the bec on these esc's or using a rx pac or ubec? I never use the built in bec on over 3s, it just isn't reliable. That is for ANY esc I run.

[Rumdog]

The truth is, SAW setups aren't a reliable everyday setip.

[tiqueman]

Are you guys using the bec on these esc's or using a rx pac or ubec? I never use the built in bec on over 3s, it just isn't reliable. That is for ANY esc I run.

Ubec on my twin, and RX packs on my other boats except for my stock SV still runs the Esc's bec.

The truth is, SAW setups aren't a reliable everyday setip.

Exactly

And thats where I think Baked's boat will outlast mine and Blackcats... but as Ive been tought.. you have to pay to play

[blackcat26]

I disconnected my rd wire from the connector to disable the bec on both esc's. (just to be safe) Can you run one of the bec's like this to power it? I didn't know so I played it safe. As for these motors I have had good luck until maybe now. I ran my Elam on 6s several times and had no issues. I would almost go on a limb and say its got enough power on 6s to fuel my sw36!

[blackcat26]

Think i will put my other aquastar in and turnigy's 3300kv's back in and change timing and try and re run her today. Those motors are a pain to take in/out. Might even run just one battery to see the Mph difference from shedding some weight. She tipped the scales at 7 1/4 lbs fully loaded ready to run on maiden.

[blackcat26]

Ran on two batts with the "maiden turnigys" and gps recorded 60mph on high timing. Ran again later with just one battery and got a little less than 60 but the motors were cooler. I thought that losing that 1lb battery would speed me up for sure. I'm also not so sure my under hull pick-ups are picking up that much water. Last run of the day motors were around 135f and speedys were about 105 or so. Boat was acting strange again like one motor was flamed out. Just like Jesse says cheap, fast, reliable, choose any two.