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  • tiqueman
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2009
    • 5669

    #76
    60 sounds good though!!! And more importantly.. no fires!
    What kinds water stream do you have coming out your exits? Does it look spotty and weak?
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    • blackcat26
      High Speed Junkie
      • Sep 2009
      • 1598

      #77
      Originally posted by tiqueman
      60 sounds good though!!! And more importantly.. no fires!
      What kinds water stream do you have coming out your exits? Does it look spotty and weak?
      60 is not fast enough! lol Can't see the stream if there is one cuz it comes out of transom......
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      • blackcat26
        High Speed Junkie
        • Sep 2009
        • 1598

        #78
        OK ran her again today with Ammo 36-50-3300's. Looking at their wattage rating of over 800 almost double the Turnigy's rating I was pumped, until I ran it. Top speed identical to the turnigy motors. She went 61.1mph riding very dry. So, what's the difference between $15 dollar motors and $50 dollar ones? (about $35 dollars apparently) Got the 36-56-2600's on the way, hopefully they will diliver me into the "70" zone.......
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        • BakedMopar
          No Mo Slipah
          • Sep 2009
          • 1679

          #79
          Originally posted by blackcat26
          Ran on two batts with the "maiden turnigys" and gps recorded 60mph on high timing. Ran again later with just one battery and got a little less than 60 but the motors were cooler. I thought that losing that 1lb battery would speed me up for sure.
          I did some runs with my Skunk yesterday with different setups and found my findings pretty similar. With the 1p setup it corners a little better but speeds seems slower. After a long straight at full throttle it hits the LVC cutoff too. With the 2p it holds the voltage up higher thats why its faster.

          As far as the one motor thing. It happens to mines too. Although I have only one twin boat I have many twin motor monster trucks. Even with two esc in parrallel which ever motor has less load will spin faster. I'm assuming it happens to yours in the corners when you get off the throttle.

          When are you going to be testing out the new setup?
          Last edited by BakedMopar; 04-23-2010, 01:53 PM.
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          • blackcat26
            High Speed Junkie
            • Sep 2009
            • 1598

            #80
            Well I'm hellbound to make these Ammo motors work.....Got 442's in today and have already started whittling em down a bit (38mm) Shooting for this weekend weather permitting. My theory is these motors can't turn a 42mm prop the rpm needed to break the speed of light. SO, I'm going to try smaller props and see what happens......(still waiting on HOBBY KING order with my 36-56-2600's and batts)
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            • blackcat26
              High Speed Junkie
              • Sep 2009
              • 1598

              #81
              A quick shot of new prop. Might cavitate like crazy, we'll see.
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              • tiqueman
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jul 2009
                • 5669

                #82
                Prop looks good!

                I wish I could fit 6S2P in my build. Its just not happening. I may consider going to 5S on a 9XL. I may lose a mph or two, but my run time will be much better. For a quick Woohoo pass on 6S though, its fun.

                I got my props in today. Hope to see the water Monday.
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                • BakedMopar
                  No Mo Slipah
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1679

                  #83
                  You try out those props yet?
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                  • blackcat26
                    High Speed Junkie
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1598

                    #84
                    Yeah tried them Sunday. Lost a few mph from them, but they still looked pretty good! I think I finally see the light on the problem. Mudl told me from the start the 50mm can's were too underpowered for my setup. I believe this to be the main problem as I have explored smaller props now. My only other concern was stinger height but he said mine should be fine. Hobby King still has not sent my order of my batts and 56mm long Turnigy's due to a $1.50 pc. of backordered fiberglass.........
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                    • tiqueman
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5669

                      #85
                      Originally posted by blackcat26
                      Yeah tried them Sunday. Lost a few mph from them, but they still looked pretty good! I think I finally see the light on the problem. Mudl told me from the start the 50mm can's were too underpowered for my setup. I believe this to be the main problem as I have explored smaller props now. My only other concern was stinger height but he said mine should be fine. Hobby King still has not sent my order of my batts and 56mm long Turnigy's due to a $1.50 pc. of backordered fiberglass.........
                      You can email them and they will take it off your order and gove you the dollar amount in dollar points. Ive done that a couple times when I got tired of waiting. Then just re-order it when the piece is in stock.


                      I originally planned on those cans for my build and Mudl suggested it woldnt work well. But thats also a 32" hull compared to the 26". That guys got some great knowledge.
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                      • blackcat26
                        High Speed Junkie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1598

                        #86
                        Ran her yesterday with the 36-56-2600's and Gps recorded 63.8......Realistically how much faster would pitching up from the (442's, 1.4) to 1.6? I need to hit 70 bad! My props are x442 counter rotating s/b and slightly detongued.
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                        • tiqueman
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5669

                          #87
                          Not sure if youd get 6mph out of it, but, it could slow you down as well. For example, a single drive cat I have runs 2 mph faster w/ a 442 than a 642 on a 8XL... BUT, you never know til you try. And I think unless someone has your exact set up, you can get an answer without trying.....
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                          • blackcat26
                            High Speed Junkie
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1598

                            #88
                            My elam on the blackjack motor picked up 2 0r 3 mph from a 442 to the 642. Guess I'm back to the drawing board.....
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                            • BakedMopar
                              No Mo Slipah
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1679

                              #89
                              Originally posted by blackcat26
                              Ran her yesterday with the 36-56-2600's and Gps recorded 63.8......Realistically how much faster would pitching up from the (442's, 1.4) to 1.6? I need to hit 70 bad! My props are x442 counter rotating s/b and slightly detongued.
                              Was that with the 42 or the ones that you cut to 38? Did you try the 38? I have had no luck with the X6 series. I don't gps but I doesn't look any faster but more heat. You could try to de toungue them add a little cup to the tips and or give them a little hub cut so it revs a little better.
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                              • blackcat26
                                High Speed Junkie
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 1598

                                #90
                                Originally posted by BakedMopar
                                Was that with the 42 or the ones that you cut to 38? Did you try the 38? I have had no luck with the X6 series. I don't gps but I doesn't look any faster but more heat. You could try to de toungue them add a little cup to the tips and or give them a little hub cut so it revs a little better.
                                Yes the 442's Still to size, slightly detongued. How much can you take off?
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