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  • detox
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jun 2008
    • 2318

    #1

    Best Whiplash Lipo Location

    I'm ready to build my Whiplash 20 powered by a NUE 1515 1y and was wondering where is the best location to mount Lipos for best balance. I thought about using these two 30c 4s 3700mah packs wired parallel for a total of 7400mah. http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idProduct=9506
    These fit very easily in the 4" x 4" location I have outlined in red. Is there a better option?
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    Last edited by detox; 12-17-2009, 06:49 PM.
  • detox
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jun 2008
    • 2318

    #2
    I also have two Hyperion G3 packs (4s 3300mah) that are very close to the same size that I use in my UL-1 powered by a Nue 1515 1y.
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    Last edited by detox; 12-18-2009, 09:06 AM.

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    • sailr
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Nov 2007
      • 6927

      #3
      Myself and others in our club are running two 2S 4700-5500's in series. You'll have to add dead weight with anything less! The lipos fit great right up front. Look for the Whiplash Builds on this board.
      Mini Cat Racing USA
      www.minicatracingusa.com

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      • crabstick
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 954

        #4
        I did mine a little different, Motor right up the front and cells behind, I can get good cog on 4 and 6s setups like this
        Matt.
        FE, Nitro and Gas racing in Auckland
        www.rcboats.co.nz

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        • eboat
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 693

          #5
          Where were you going to put the motor in front of the lipos or behind ?
          There is alot of boat behind the sponsons and you will need to keep as much weight near the front

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          • Jeepers
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2007
            • 1973

            #6
            First remember Brian recommends the CG at 1 inch behind the sponson with a RTR weight of 5lbs this will change the heavier the boat is.

            In my opinion there is 2 much weight in the nose with 4s2p, it handles the corners poorly actually loses speed, I tested it, 2p did not go back in after the first run.

            Here is how I set my Whiplash up: 4s1p 6500mah Hyperion cells, Neu 1521 1.5d. hydra 240 set at low timing, water cooling on the ESC ONLY, it weighs 7lbs 7oz on the water.

            This boat finished overall 3rd at the 2009 Nats in P Sport hydro,not bad for a boat I finished 1 week prior to Nats and had very little tuning on it!

            The Whiplash is my favorite boat!
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            • detox
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jun 2008
              • 2318

              #7
              Jeepers,
              I will mount my motor about the same location you mounted yours in picture. That way I can use the side locations like yours or up front in front of motor
              Last edited by detox; 12-18-2009, 09:00 AM.

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              • LuckyDuc
                Team Ducati Racing
                • Dec 2008
                • 989

                #8
                I did a significant amount of CG testing with mine, and found that the packs needed to be as far forward as possible. I used 2 x 2cell 5000mah 30c packs in series in mine. If you look at the link below you will see that I still had to add 3oz of lead to each sponson tip to get the CG close.

                When you get to the point where everything but the top decking is glued on, install everything and play with the layout until you get close on the CG. I'd be willing to bet some $$ that your packs will end up in the front as far as possible.

                Pic http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...4&postcount=58

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                • Jeepers
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • May 2007
                  • 1973

                  #9
                  Originally posted by detox
                  I also have two Hyperion G3 packs (4s 3300mah) that are very close to the same size that I used in my Nue 1515 1y powered UL1.
                  this is what I would run If I had them!

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                  • Jeepers
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • May 2007
                    • 1973

                    #10
                    Originally posted by detox
                    Jeepers,
                    I will mount my motor about the same location you mounted yours in picture. Thet way I can use the side locations like yours or up front in front of motor
                    Even built this way its still a tight fit, the cells hardly fit next to the motor and the sides of the boat. 4s2p does fit on either side of the motor and the hatch does close over 2 4s 5000mah Poly RC packs.

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                    • detox
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2318

                      #11
                      LuckyDuc, Have you ran your boat yet. I have been following your build, but it hasn't been active for awhile now. I especially like your idea of using the UL-1 motor mount.

                      Maybe I will put one lipo pack beside the motor and one pack in front of the motor? Never know until I run hull on water.

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                      • LuckyDuc
                        Team Ducati Racing
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 989

                        #12
                        Originally posted by detox
                        LuckyDuc, Have you ran your boat yet. I have been following your build, but it hasn't been active for awhile now. I especially like your idea of using the UL-1 motor mount.

                        Maybe I will put one lipo pack beside the motor and one pack in front of the motor? Never know until I run hull on water.
                        I still have some more work to do on mine, so no water testing yet.... I got too busy with work and life
                        I plan to get back to it after the holidays

                        Raydee did quite a bit of testing with his and confirmed that the CG needs to be around 1" behind the sponsons to keep stability at 60+mph speeds. BUT like you said. It is hard to know until you run it.

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                        • detox
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2318

                          #13
                          Originally posted by crabstick
                          I did mine a little different, Motor right up the front and cells behind, I can get good cog on 4 and 6s setups like this
                          crabstick,
                          Thanks for your input. I may try it your way, but one thing that worries me about your motor being so far up front is driveline vibration. It seems that the longer the drive cable the more vibration no mater how much grease I use? Wouldn't a shorter stuffing tube and cable run smoother and vibrate less? Anybody have the answer? What is the best way to prevent a vibration free drive train other than perfect balance?


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                          • tylerm
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 310

                            #14
                            Hi Detox,

                            I have sen people put one 4S pack up the front in the nose, motor where Jeepers is, and 1 2S pack under the deck where the fuel tank is, and then another 2S pack on the opposite side.then you have the 2 x 2S packs in series, then parrallel with the other 4S pack in the nose.

                            Hope this helps,
                            Ty.

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                            • detox
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 2318

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tylerm
                              Hi Detox,

                              I have sen people put one 4S pack up the front in the nose, motor where Jeepers is, and 1 2S pack under the deck where the fuel tank is, and then another 2S pack on the opposite side.then you have the 2 x 2S packs in series, then parrallel with the other 4S pack in the nose.

                              Hope this helps,
                              Ty.
                              Wow! That would be alot of lipo capacity
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