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  • Xfactor
    Banned
    • Mar 2009
    • 861

    #166
    Hey I can view it on the little screamer thread . Randy that really a nice running eighth scale . My circus hull is 8lbs less motor and electrics .In your opinion Randy would the screamer be a decent choice for my boat if I wanna run between 55 and 65 mph in this boat. The prop I have in mind is an x 457. The nitro motor it would replace is a picco 67 that was balanced and bluprinted by a guy name Ken Stone In Oklahoma City. Its kinda funny cuz my picco has never been run and I want to convert the boat to electric. It seems that nitro motors are going to become obsolete;Oh well,we were probably killing the fish anyway.

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    • RandyatBBY
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2007
      • 3915

      #167
      Originally posted by Xfactor
      Hey I can view it on the little screamer thread . Randy that really a nice running eighth scale . My circus hull is 8lbs less motor and electrics .In your opinion Randy would the screamer be a decent choice for my boat if I wanna run between 55 and 65 mph in this boat. The prop I have in mind is an x 457. The nitro motor it would replace is a picco 67 that was balanced and bluprinted by a guy name Ken Stone In Oklahoma City. Its kinda funny cuz my picco has never been run and I want to convert the boat to electric. It seems that nitro motors are going to become obsolete;Oh well,we were probably killing the fish anyway.
      Thanks, It is just a start, there is more in it. I like my 1/8 scales to come in at about 16 lb, this boat is a tank weighs 20 lb. with out paint add 2 more pounds. I need to get to work to night, I will add more in the morning. I do like the motor. I think it has potential to do what you want. I have only ran three props with this motor. more tomorrow.
      Randy
      For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
      BBY Racing

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      • Xfactor
        Banned
        • Mar 2009
        • 861

        #168
        By the way Randy what's in the hydro in the speed run?If you dont mind me asking. In general no specifics.

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        • RandyatBBY
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2007
          • 3915

          #169
          Originally posted by Xfactor
          By the way Randy what's in the hydro in the speed run?If you dont mind me asking. In general no specifics.
          I have not put in a JPS yet but we think it is in the 55 56 MPH range with a 455 prop.
          Last edited by RandyatBBY; 03-13-2010, 10:32 PM.
          Randy
          For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
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          • Xfactor
            Banned
            • Mar 2009
            • 861

            #170
            What other props have you tried Randy?
            Last edited by Xfactor; 03-14-2010, 07:35 PM.

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            • RandyatBBY
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2007
              • 3915

              #171
              Originally posted by Xfactor
              What other props have you tried Randy?
              Was not able to run the boat this Sunday I had a lot of other boats to set up and with daylight savings a little short on time. I may get to run it in LA at the SAW's. Not sure if I will have the new motor on time or not .
              Last edited by RandyatBBY; 03-16-2010, 07:02 PM.
              Randy
              For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
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              • Xfactor
                Banned
                • Mar 2009
                • 861

                #172
                Aww man.

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                • pmisuinas
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 144

                  #173
                  Have you had a chance to see it there is a better prop match, or are you still thinking a X455 is the way to go?

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                  • RandyatBBY
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3915

                    #174
                    Originally posted by pmisuinas
                    Have you had a chance to see it there is a better prop match, or are you still thinking a X455 is the way to go?
                    The 455 is just a starting point, the motor definably has more power to push other bigger props. I just have not been able to get to the pond since the SAW's. It sits there quietly waiting.
                    Randy
                    For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                    BBY Racing

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                    • pmisuinas
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 144

                      #175
                      Do you think it would be best to try a larger diameter prop first or maybe go up in pitch instead? maybe a 655? Am willing to experiment if I know what to experiment on--unfortunately I am completely new to FE (don't think my tug boat and scale boat experience is going to help much :-)). I have one of these motors I am going to put in an Aeromarine Sport X hull...

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                      • RandyatBBY
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3915

                        #176
                        Originally posted by pmisuinas
                        Do you think it would be best to try a larger diameter prop first or maybe go up in pitch instead? maybe a 655? Am willing to experiment if I know what to experiment on--unfortunately I am completely new to FE (don't think my tug boat and scale boat experience is going to help much :-)). I have one of these motors I am going to put in an Aeromarine Sport X hull...
                        Start with the 455 prop be safe is the boat is running wet may need to run a X450 to start off with and get the boat tuned before going up in prop.
                        Randy
                        For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                        BBY Racing

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                        • Xfactor
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 861

                          #177
                          do they even make a 655? I was thinking more along the lines of a 1400 series or 1600 series prop in the 50-60mm range.

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                          • RandyatBBY
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3915

                            #178
                            Originally posted by Xfactor
                            do they even make a 655? I was thinking more along the lines of a 1400 series or 1600 series prop in the 50-60mm range.
                            To make the prop work you will need a low lifting prop. The problem I was having with the X460 was cavitation. What I was going to do is some prop work to stop the direction of flow out to the sides of the blade and make it travel in a pushing direction. Just going bigger does not help. More of a screw prop may help.
                            Randy
                            For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                            BBY Racing

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                            • Xfactor
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 861

                              #179
                              I guess I just dont get why all the fe guys insist on mono props on their hydro? all that strut angle introduces drag. I guess i dont understand using a prop with no lift then angling the strut 4-6 degress to get the butt out of the water. whats the purpose of hydro props then? To sit on the shelf?Someone please explain?

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                              • RandyatBBY
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3915

                                #180
                                Originally posted by Xfactor
                                I guess I just dont get why all the fe guys insist on mono props on their hydro? all that strut angle introduces drag. I guess i dont understand using a prop with no lift then angling the strut 4-6 degress to get the butt out of the water. whats the purpose of hydro props then? To sit on the shelf?Someone please explain?
                                Well I am not talking about running a mono this is a Pro Boat build. Angling the strut with any boat will cause hop and lift. I had the problem of cavitation with any bigger prop than 455 with this low RPM motor. Sorry I do not have the time to write all the concepts nor the concentration. I have to get two boat layed up this after noon, I am leaving to look at a car for my son tomorrow in Seattle.
                                Randy
                                For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                                BBY Racing

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