House health bill makes private medical insurance illegal

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  • Darin Jordan
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    • Apr 2007
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    #376
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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    • JimClark
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      • Apr 2007
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      #377
      So then the questions is do you want the government setting your salary also?

      Originally posted by RCprince
      "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
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      • RCprince
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        • Jul 2007
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        #378
        Originally posted by JimClark
        So then the questions is do you want the government setting your salary also?
        They already do, ask people who make minimum wages. I've heard Cali has the highest 13+ and hours in some counties.

        And this is exactly what I mean about flawed arguments, "We don't want socialized medicine!" You already do! Medicaid and Medicare!...Next they'll say they don't want socialized law Enforcement or maybe Socialized Fire fighting or maybe Socialized Public Works
        Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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        • RCprince
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          • Jul 2007
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          #379
          I almost forgot, They don't want Socialized Retirement or pension also.
          Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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          • domwilson
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            • Apr 2007
            • 4408

            #380
            Originally posted by RCprince
            Good video...emotional and thought provoking.
            Government Moto:
            "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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            • RCprince
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              • Jul 2007
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              #381
              While, we're at it, lets invite the North Koreans, The Russians, The Chinese, The Afghans, The Iraqi's, The Iranians, et al, Because we'll be getting rid of our socialized Armed Forces next.
              Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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              • domwilson
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                • Apr 2007
                • 4408

                #382
                Originally posted by RCprince
                They already do, ask people who make minimum wages. I've heard Cali has the highest 13+ and hours in some counties.

                And this is exactly what I mean about flawed arguments, "We don't want socialized medicine!" You already do! Medicaid and Medicare!...Next they'll say they don't want socialized law Enforcement or maybe Socialized Fire fighting or maybe Socialized Public Works
                Actually it's $8.00/hr. http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/faq_minimumwage.htm
                Government Moto:
                "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                • sailr
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                  • Nov 2007
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                  #383
                  Here are just three examples of what I personally have been denied. There are more. I have been repeatedly denied by my insurance company a medication that I desperately need. Three different doctors have argued with the insurance company. Why have they denied it? It's too expensive. A month's supply is $479. I know I can't afford it. I also am in physical therapy after a spine operation failed. The insurance company says you can only go on 12 visits a year. After ten visits I am just beginning to feel better but yet in another week they will cut me off! I have been denied using a specific surgeon who is ON THEIR PLAN because he practices at a hospital that is not on their plan! I already pay several hundred dollars a month to my so-called health insurance company. The entire system is profit-driven, not care driven. That is the problem in a nutshell. One of the health insurance company CEO's makes $849,000 a DAY. That is a total crock. His pay goes up the more they don't have to pay out. Bernie Maddoff was an amateur crook! This is outrageous. The insurance agency is bankrolling the lies and liars that are disrupting town halls. I have no problem with them airing their concerns. In fact, I encourage it. BUT, they need to ask a question and allow the politician to answer it, not be shouted down. We all have the right to dissent but when you prevent anyone else from speaking, you are denying their rights too. NOTHING is accomplished which is exactly what the insurnace companies want! Those of you that support this activity need to step back and think about it. How much did you say the war protesters of the vietnam war were wrong and should shutup and NOW it's just AOK for the buttwipes that are acting like animals. Your double standards are showing. You should be ashamed. This is not democracy, this is anarchy.

                  Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                  What am I missing? How many people are denied and what for? The way you guys are saying it, It sounds to me like an epidemic. The only stuff I have ever heard of personally is experimental stuff. And I'm sure as hell positive that a Government system will deny the same stuff.
                  Mini Cat Racing USA
                  www.minicatracingusa.com

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                  • RCprince
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                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1637

                    #384
                    Originally posted by domwilson
                    No, that maybe statewide,, but there was this town or county that paid 13+. One of those ritzy towns.
                    Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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                    • domwilson
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                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4408

                      #385
                      Interesting article: http://www.progressiveliving.org/eco..._communism.htm

                      "Specifically, the vast majority of Americans whether liberal or conservative believe in both political democracy and in some form of mixed economy, both of which degenerate authoritarian economic elitists such as George Bush abhor (despite much disingenuous rhetoric to the contrary). The differences between the cultural left and the cultural right are constantly and deliberately emphasized in the elitist mass media as an expression of the "divide and conquer" strategy worked out largely by racist Strom Thurmond and his aide Harry Dent, together with political hatchet man Harvey Leroy "Lee" Atwater, and his devotee Karl Rove. "


                      Main site: http://www.progressiveliving.org/

                      Mission: http://www.progressiveliving.org/preamble.htm



                      Has anyone heard of this before?
                      Last edited by domwilson; 08-13-2009, 07:22 PM.
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                      "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                      • Steven Vaccaro
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8720

                        #386
                        Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                        There are an estimated 47 million people without health care. At $2400 a year per person(which is impossible with a private company at this point, its about double that). Thats 112 Billion or so each year. The other day we figured that about 90 million people pay taxes each year. Divided up evenly thats $1250 dollars per tax paying person. For you tax payers out there, are you good with t
                        his cost? And that number is figuring the government can cut the cost in half.
                        I'm still waiting for my answer?
                        Steven Vaccaro

                        Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                        • Steven Vaccaro
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8720

                          #387
                          Originally posted by sailr
                          Here are just three examples of what I personally have been denied. There are more. I have been repeatedly denied by my insurance company a medication that I desperately need. Three different doctors have argued with the insurance company. Why have they denied it? It's too expensive. A month's supply is $479. I know I can't afford it. I also am in physical therapy after a spine operation failed. The insurance company says you can only go on 12 visits a year. After ten visits I am just beginning to feel better but yet in another week they will cut me off! I have been denied using a specific surgeon who is ON THEIR PLAN because he practices at a hospital that is not on their plan! I already pay several hundred dollars a month to my so-called health insurance company. The entire system is profit-driven, not care driven. That is the problem in a nutshell. One of the health insurance company CEO's makes $849,000 a DAY. That is a total crock. His pay goes up the more they don't have to pay out. Bernie Maddoff was an amateur crook! This is outrageous. The insurance agency is bankrolling the lies and liars that are disrupting town halls. I have no problem with them airing their concerns. In fact, I encourage it. BUT, they need to ask a question and allow the politician to answer it, not be shouted down. We all have the right to dissent but when you prevent anyone else from speaking, you are denying their rights too. NOTHING is accomplished which is exactly what the insurnace companies want! Those of you that support this activity need to step back and think about it. How much did you say the war protesters of the vietnam war were wrong and should shutup and NOW it's just AOK for the buttwipes that are acting like animals. Your double standards are showing. You should be ashamed. This is not democracy, this is anarchy.
                          Sorry to hear this, what insurance company ae you using?
                          Steven Vaccaro

                          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                          • Darin Jordan
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                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8335

                            #388
                            Originally posted by sailr
                            BUT, they need to ask a question and allow the politician to answer it, not be shouted down. We all have the right to dissent but when you prevent anyone else from speaking, you are denying their rights too. NOTHING is accomplished which is exactly what the insurnace companies want! Those of you that support this activity need to step back and think about it. How much did you say the war protesters of the vietnam war were wrong and should shutup and NOW it's just AOK for the buttwipes that are acting like animals. Your double standards are showing. You should be ashamed. This is not democracy, this is anarchy.
                            I'm sorry for your troubles, but GIVE ME A BREAK! CODE PINK, ACLU, ACCORN, etc... WHY is is OK for them to disrupt meeings and nothing is said??? But NOW, that someone stands up in opposition to what you happen to believe, it's a problem???

                            And, by the way, now that we are finding out that MOST of the crap reported by the media on this is exaggerated, the Nazi and Hitler references are VERY issolated, or not even real, or completely misconstrued, that the "town halls" are planted with Obamacare supporters (wear something yellow and he'll call on you...)... etc... Just WHO is getting duped here? Seems to me they've got you stirred up EXACTLY the way they want you to be! PERFECT! Exactly who is acting like "animals"??

                            People are genuinely concerned, and they SHOULD BE! The more they read into this, the more crap they find that should be concerning...
                            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                            • RCprince
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                              • Jul 2007
                              • 1637

                              #389
                              Here goes your opposition, Darin.

                              Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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                              • Darin Jordan
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 8335

                                #390
                                Originally posted by RCprince
                                Here goes your opposition, Darin.

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhWbXDZXlkY
                                Funny... I watched that broadcast the night it aired...

                                1) So was Palin... where was the outrage for that

                                2) "Deaththreats"... Seriously!?? Where is the real evidence, and how do you know it's not staged/planted by the DNC??

                                3) Dodd... There is a "NUT in every car"...

                                4) Glenn Beck... seriously... YOU guys yourselves say he's just an entertainer... Letterman, Jon Stewart, etc... do exactly the same thing... or have you forgotten all the Clinton and Bush funny face parodies that Conan used to do??


                                Like I said before (quoting Bill Cosby)... "There is a NUT in every car".... Hardly representative of the USA or Conservatives as a whole...

                                Keep trying, though...
                                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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