House health bill makes private medical insurance illegal

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  • Bill-SOCAL
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Nov 2007
    • 1404

    #46
    Talk about comparing apples to Studebakers!!

    So heroic action in combat to save a fallen comrade is proof that the right wing cares more about people than money?? Huh?

    Andy, if that were indeed the case then we would not see every Republican in Congress doing their dead level best to preserve the current system which preserves enormous profit for the insurance companies.

    I have no objection to private insurance companies providing health coverage, but I take great exception to them when profit trumps their duty to protect the health of their customers.

    So Andy, imagine if those heli pilots had to call Kaiser first to see if it was OK to spend that million point five BEFORE they took action. What do you supposed the outcome would have been??
    Don't get me started

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    • Flying Scotsman
      Fast Electric Adict!
      • Jun 2007
      • 5190

      #47
      Interesting discourse. I have lived in two countries with a health care system neither are perfect and both have the ability for private procedurers,in Canada for only some specified procedurers. In the UK you have the option of the private system or the government funded system. The private system is more expedient but not better in terms of care.

      Douggie
      Last edited by Flying Scotsman; 07-27-2009, 01:57 PM.

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      • AndyKunz
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2008
        • 1437

        #48
        Funny you should ask that question, Bill. You need to read the book and find out, because they DID ask ...

        Andy
        Spektrum Development Team

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        • domwilson
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 4408

          #49
          Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
          So Andy, imagine if those heli pilots had to call Kaiser first to see if it was OK to spend that million point five BEFORE they took action. What do you supposed the outcome would have been??
          They would have denied the claim. Later, settle for a lot less in mandatory arbitration.
          Government Moto:
          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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          • Bill-SOCAL
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Nov 2007
            • 1404

            #50
            Originally posted by AndyKunz
            Funny you should ask that question, Bill. You need to read the book and find out, because they DID ask ...

            Andy
            Andy, seriously, you cannot compare these two situations and if you cannot see that then I guess this will have to be yet another place where we will have to agree to disagree.
            Don't get me started

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            • RCprince
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              • Jul 2007
              • 1637

              #51
              Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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              • JimClark
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                • Apr 2007
                • 5907

                #52
                Straight from the non partisan budget office

                http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz0MQb9vTLi
                "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
                Billy Graham

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                • RCprince
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1637

                  #53
                  The solution is this. Those who would like to keep their private insurance can do so, but can not change over to public. Those who would like government insurance can have it, but if they dislike the service, then they can switch to private.
                  Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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                  • AntronX
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 333

                    #54
                    Hey guys,

                    watch this: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html

                    and this: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...damerica/view/

                    aaand this: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...1&continuous=1

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                    • domwilson
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4408

                      #55
                      One word comes to mind; Sad.
                      Government Moto:
                      "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                      • RCprince
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1637

                        #56
                        End All Corporations tomorrow, A 100 million man march encircle the district of thieves called Washington.
                        Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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                        • RCprince
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1637

                          #57
                          Dangerous Alliance of Health Industry and Right-Wingers Will Stop at Nothing to Derail Progressive Reforms

                          The Republicans have more than health care reform in their bombsights -- they want a loss for Obama so crushing it will bring the administration to its knees and restore GOP control of Congress after next year's elections.
                          Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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                          • AndyKunz
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1437

                            #58
                            Originally posted by RCprince
                            The solution is this. Those who would like to keep their private insurance can do so, but can not change over to public. Those who would like government insurance can have it, but if they dislike the service, then they can switch to private.
                            Not too bad, except that those who chose public should be stuck with the public version.

                            And (I bet you agree with this one) - all members of this and all Congresses MUST use the public version or lose their lifetime dole.

                            Andy
                            Spektrum Development Team

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                            • domwilson
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4408

                              #59
                              Originally posted by RCprince
                              Dangerous Alliance of Health Industry and Right-Wingers Will Stop at Nothing to Derail Progressive Reforms

                              http://www.opednews.com/articles/Dan...90728-627.html
                              If this is how they truly think...Childish. I would think it would really make their light shine if they came up with a better plan. One that makes the Dems plan look less appealing and offered bettered services to the public.
                              Government Moto:
                              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                              • Steven Vaccaro
                                Administrator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 8721

                                #60
                                Ok, so my father is 67 and needs open heart surgery. He's over weight, had two strokes, diabetes's and has heart problems. Does he get the operation under O's plan?
                                Steven Vaccaro

                                Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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