Ammo

[Steven Vaccaro]

I read they now can track which factory gun power is made. Some trace additive that particular to the factory. They can probably do the same to the casing and bullet.

[Jeff Wohlt]

Just picked up a new 9mm pistol Sat.

Easier to check for power residue and barrels than matching up ammo casing and fragments.

As one said...this kind of stupid legis is on the table all the time. (join NRA) Look what one person started by saying banning guns. The gun shops are selling more than ever in many years. Gov is so full of applications they do not even stop the wait period unless you have a record. Easier to buy guns now than it was two years ago.

And we now have conceal and carry in Missouri ...I am taking that class to. :)

If I want to kill-- a $6 arrow will do it and nobody will hear a thing.....trace a walmart arrow...good luck. Don't forget the rubber gloves for prints on the arrow.

I am a proud owner of numerous guns some over 100 years old from my grandpas.

I am not as much mad about guns as I am our freedoms....everyone better take it seriously....we have fewer and fewer and the sell it like it has a good purpose...what ever.

[Meniscus]

Well, I'd like to say that if you needed a gun to revolt, you'd have one. A little birdie told me just go to any VFW or American Legion. Where do you think all of the decommissioned WWII weapons went? And where all of the ROTC weapons, without firing pins of course, come from. Please don't ask me about this info as I don't think it appropriate to disclose.

The problem is ammo. This is why this legislation in particular is quite worrisome.

And for the record, I've got a compound bow that is quite capable of doing the job as well. Have you ever missed a target with a compound bow? I've seen it happen and it went right through an exterior steel door. It makes you think. LOL => tracing Walmart arrows, that's funny!

As a side note, among other things, I have my grandfather's 1947 (pre'64) Winchester Model 70 in 270. Only thing is, he special ordered it, custom as target model. Only 20 made that year with this setup. I use it today and grouping is less than an inch at 200 yards, propped against a tree. Last hunting season, in the heat of the moment, I hit a deer twice at 125 yards, 1 second between shots. Grouping was side by side, less than 1/4". Meanwhile, my grandfather hunted moose and elk with the thing and has the pictures and racks to prove it. I even have a moose mount that was 55" at the shoulder, spread of 49" wide by 43" deep. Who says a 270 can't do the job? LOL

Now I guess I need to hoard some rounds! And pay in cash, LOL!

I'm not even a gun guy! I prefer a bow any day!

[Ub Hauled]

I read they now can track which factory gun power is made. Some trace additive that particular to the factory. They can probably do the same to the casing and bullet.

that would be the way to do that I think, something that is inherent in the projectile that people cannot file off...

[Flying Scotsman]

From a global viewpoint. I hate to state this comment. Guns will not solve your problems are you so paranoid that carrying a concealed weapon of death makes you feal secure out on the street and your car. WE as a global nation are in trouble and this is not the Wild West era. I hope

Douggie

[Ub Hauled]

I wish we could snap our fingers and make the guns go away Douggie... reality is, it will not happen.
The only way to get things moving the right direction is making it difficult to get away with armed crimes and have a severe punishment as a result... it is obvious to me that criminals don't understand the "slap on the wrist" that they get for doing something bad... they spend sometime at "club med", once they are have done 1-3 and have good behavior, they are out back on the streets doing their thing and send us the bill...
we need a better Judiciary system with punishment more according to what they have done.

[Jeff Wohlt]

Well...think how many people could be saved the next time some joker hits a 711 and 4 people pull out 40 cal on him? Would it make you think. The good people will be good...it is the bad people that need the bullet! How many people could have been saved with an Air MArshall on board planes during 911?

Not to mention how much money does the taxpayer spend keeping these nimrods in the jail and sucking up tax dollars?

I am just saying...we have freedoms...forget the gun crap...that is one issue that has been going on for 25 years! Will it end with that?

[Doby]

From a global viewpoint. I hate to state this comment. Guns will not solve your problems are you so paranoid that carrying a concealed weapon of death makes you feal secure out on the street and your car. WE as a global nation are in trouble and this is not the Wild West era. I hope

Douggie

As much as it pains me to say it...........I have to agree with Dougiee

We don't carry guns here in the Great White North and feel pretty safe.

There are bigger issues to be dealt with than tracking ammo, guns etc.

[Jeff Wohlt]

Douggie lives in one of the lowest gun crime country's in the world.

It is one of our freedoms is all I am saying. I grew up hunting and feeling owning a gun was normal and a right of living in the USA.

So mark all the ammo you want...when you feel your life is threatened you have the right to defend...that is all I want to remain the same.

Break in my house and your time is up...plain and simple. I am no extremist either...I just want to live free or DIE!! (NH motto)

[Flying Scotsman]

John, you are so sweet but hiding under a chair will not escape the wrath of THE MIGHTY DOUGGIE

Douggie

[Flying Scotsman]

Douggie lives in one of the lowest gun crime country's in the world.

It is one of our freedoms is all I am saying. I grew up hunting and feeling owning a gun was normal and a right of living in the USA.

So mark all the ammo you want...when you feel your life is threatened you have the right to defend...that is all I want to remain the same.

Break in my house and your time is up...plain and simple. I am no extremist either...I just want to live free or DIE!! (NH motto)

Jeff, I have shot more bird and vermin than you can think of. A pheasant that you brought home...one word...yummy. but hand guns I have no time for and by the way Vancouver has a huge gang/drug problem

Douggie

[egneg]

This is not about hunting - it's about the second amendment.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675&p

[Meniscus]

You hit it on the nose Egneg, or maybe between the eyes.

[Flying Scotsman]

The second amendment was written in times that a militia may be required to defend a new nation. Today...rubbish

Douggie

[raptor347]

Jeff, I have shot more bird and vermin than you can think of. A pheasant that you brought home...one word...yummy. but hand guns I have no time for and by the way Vancouver has a huge gang/drug problem

Douggie

Douggie,
Like I said, it's all about the population density. It's nice and peaceful outside town.

Wait, I hunt deer and pigs with a handgun. It's a really big handgun and not real practical for defense purposes, but still a handgun. It's great, I carry it in a back holster when I'm out bird hunting.

If you want to get rid of something that causes a lot of violence, get rid of alcohol. How about making drivers licences a bit harder to qualify for, lots more highway deaths that could be avoided there. Violence/death isn't what makes this an issue. Just looking at raw numbers. It doesn't matter how many are killed every year due to cars or alcohol (or cars and alcohol). You don't have the potential for an armed revolution because everyone has a beer and a car. A good portion of the guncontrol politicians have CC permits.

Probably ought to get rid of all the archery equipment also, have you ever seen what a good broadhead will do to the everage tactical vest.