Darin - THis one's for you Bro"

[Bill-SOCAL]

Bill are you saying that lying on tv to a few million people and while under oath is the same as lying to your wife in private? Clinton was under oath and looked like a fool, period! The evidence was there, he decided to make it about what the meaning of "is" is.

This is great stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0

The rest of the guys you mentioned are just cheats and slim for doing what they did to their wives.

I am in no way saying that Clinton was right to do what he did. The fact that he lied under oath was the thing he did that I have problems with. How many people were watching is irrelevant.

But really, going after him in the first place was OK with you? Why not then go after EVERY public official who had an illicit affair. But that is not been done.

So in your mind if he had just come clean (sorry, couldn't resist that one) before the whole legal BS got started that this would have ended it for you?? You think the GOP would have let it drop??

The real point is how asinine it was to spends millions of dollars going after him in the first about a BJ. I often wonder if he had not been so distracted by the GOP witch hunts over Whitewater, etc., etc., if maybe he could have been more effective at snagging Bin Laden.

But recall, it was the GOP who raised a stink about going after Bin Laden because they saw it as a ruse designed to distract the nation from the important business of seeing if a man lied about a BJ. How ironic that turns out to be.

And as I keep saying his lie clearly outweighs Bush and his administration lying about the WMDs, lying about Valerie Plame, lying about torture, lying about illegal wire tapping, and lying about rendition, just to name a few of the big ones. All well and good. Just THANK GOD he did not lie about getting a BJ. THAT would have been terrible.

The really sad thing is that in the minds of many on the right that is EXACTLY what they think. And anyone who dares to raise the questions will have their patriotism questioned or be written off as left wing nut job.

Again, the hypocrisy. We spent millions trying to nab Clinton in a lie, but we cannot even ask if Bush lied without being labeled or questioned.

Keep in mind too that the day Clinton was impeached and the day he left office his approval rating was much higher than Bush's has been for some time. But still, here we are talking about Clinton.

[Steven Vaccaro]

Bill in the end, they are all no good. They ALL have had input in the current housing mess, including Clinton.
Some quick reading, McCain, Obama camps point fingers in banking deregulation, mortgage messes.... click link.

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2008/09/15/daily81.html

[calcagno45]

And anyone who dares to raise the questions will have their patriotism questioned or be written off as left wing nut job.

Thanks for exposing yourself. We didn't need a clearer picture.

But.. Most politicians are being busted for their illicit affairs. Democrats and Republicans both. Especially the ones that want to sell there senate seat to the highest bidder or Jesse Jackson Jr....

And as I keep saying his lie clearly outweighs Bush and his administration lying about the WMDs

Prove it. There's no evidence that there was or never was WMD's. But they surely needed an @$$ kicking, don't you think? What if I drive all the way out to your house, steal your car, and drive it through your house. And then steal your other car and drive it into your mom's house? Are you going to sit back and say "o well..." I think not. I mean you could call the cop. I guess we could have called the UN.. but thats another story.

Again, the hypocrisy. We spent millions trying to nab Clinton in a lie, but we cannot even ask if Bush lied without being labeled or questioned.

I truly believe that Bush will go down in history as a man of great integrity, and as a man that put the safety of the US citizens first.
Now whether he lied about war, I truly don't know. But I do believe we had to retaliate. We are the greatest and most powerful nation in the world.

Its Right or wrong sir....

[Bill-SOCAL]

I truly believe that Bush will go down in history as a man of great integrity, and as a man that put the safety of the US citizens first.

And believe he will go down in history as perhaps the worst President this great nation has had to date and as a man who put the interests of his friends and himself before all else. Worse, he did it under the guise of "Patriotism".

So, we are at an impasse. Honestly I see no good coming from further exchanges on this topic. There is nothing that either side can say to sway the other side. So there it is.

Now back to something important, like length limits!!!

[ghostofpf1]

I truly believe that Bush will go down in history as a man of great integrity, and as a man that put the safety of the US citizens first.

Ghost

[calcagno45]

Laugh if you will, but watch as history progresses...

And when you say Clinton, what is said? "He got a BJ and 'puffed' weed." Touche

Length limits? Hmm I think that would be the best thing for Legislative. Get new and informed views and opinions, true to the people, in office. Instead of, my state, ten term dollar Bill Jefferson. The longer they are in there, the more complacent they become. Out with the old, in with the new. I think both sides should agree on that, except for those already in there.

However, that becomes an issue of the extremist and radical that want "change." I'm not too sure what change is coming?