Obama and Bidin...Mccain and???????

[Avanti]

Nobama is what one yard sign I saw today said, I thought it was great.

obama has accomplished nothing compared to Mccain or Palin.

there are a bunch of obama08 bumber stickers running around here (St. Petersburg, FL.), but I see more Mccain yard signs than obama. What is going on in your towns?

I put it in another thread that this whole obama thing is bad news win or lose we are looking at race riots.

[Spot Me 2]

I think people need to also REALLY pay attention and study the associations he has/does have, his record in his state and the federal Senate, and the foundations underlying some of the organizations he's associated with... He's MUCH more than he's selling to the American public, and I don't mean that in a flattering way...

For example:

http://www.uncorrelated.com/2008/04/obamas_bomber_buddy.html

Anyone know the difference between the "American Dream" and the "American Potential"??? Obama keeps touting the later... Look up Marxist literature... and the ideas of Bill Ayers, or Jeremia Wright, or the foundations of the creation of the Holy Trinity Church... His "plans" for America can be directly linked to many of these foundations...

Pretty Scarey if you ask me...

And frankly, I don't expect someone who has worked VERY hard all their lives, or their parents worked hard, etc., to give more than their fair portion of their income for the good of the Nation... I'm not interested in being a Nation full of "all-the-sames" when it comes to having and having-not... I'd like to think there is a fighting chance that my hard work will someday pay off and that I can rise above my current situation. That dream dies in the vision of the "American Potential"...

Do the research on your own and consider what you find on your own merrits, away from what the Media is trying to push on you, and then think long and hard about where we are heading...

It makes me fear for the futures of my beautiful children...

Sorry, don't mean to offend, but I'll take the American Hero and the Mom of 5... They've both proven thoughout their lives that they are fighting for their country and it's well-being...

Well put!!!! I have done me own research( sitting at home waiting for back surgery so I have a lot of time) Obama Scares me to no end. In one of His memoirs the he wrote and published, he states " if the political winds change, I will side with the muslums." That statement right there tells me all I need to know about the man. I don't need the leader of my country siding with the muslums!!!!

[sjslhill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4-TZspqlOs

[Bill-SOCAL]

Well put!!!! I have done me own research( sitting at home waiting for back surgery so I have a lot of time) Obama Scares me to no end. In one of His memoirs the he wrote and published, he states " if the political winds change, I will side with the muslums." That statement right there tells me all I need to know about the man. I don't need the leader of my country siding with the muslums!!!!

Maybe he would scare you a bit less if you had actual facts instead of the made up crap.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

Really, I could care less which side of the debate you are on, but is it so freaking hard to get the facts straight before hitting the send key??

And just for clarification, if you want to hate some group, at least spell their name correctly. It is Muslim, not muslum.

[Darin Jordan]

Maybe he would scare you a bit less if you had actual facts instead of the made up crap.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

Not me... still concerns me the same... but that is a nice site. The more information the better... and the easier it is for some of us to form an informed opinion...

Asside from everything else... I still don't like his policies or ideas or his campaigning methods, which are politics as usual...

The more I'm hearing about the GOP VP nominee, the more I'm liking her... An army of Dem laywers and investigators and reporters swarming Alaska with pockets full of cash trying to dig up some dirt... We'll have to see if they actually find something they can report without ommitting key points that will make a difference to her appeal...

SHE represents a HUGE change of politics in this country, and I am looking forward to seeing if she can get herself through these next 6-weeks or so. If she fairs as I believe she will, then we'll definately have an interesting race on our hands come November 4th...

And Mr. McCain... Well... his track record, despite what the Dems seem to believe, is one of truely REACHING "across the aisle" (McCain/Feingold, etc.) and trying to solve problems... He's too close to the middle to be another G.W.B. I suppose he would seem VERY far to the right compared to Obama...

Game On!

[sjslhill]

Pelosi, Reed and Obama are one in the same.....

[Spot Me 2]

Maybe he would scare you a bit less if you had actual facts instead of the made up crap.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

Really, I could care less which side of the debate you are on, but is it so freaking hard to get the facts straight before hitting the send key??

And just for clarification, if you want to hate some group, at least spell their name correctly. It is Muslim, not muslum.

Doesn't change how I feel about him. Tell me what he has done to qualify him for pres??? Thanks for the site, but who says the site is correct? It just another web site likethe million others that say its true. I guess I will need to read both of his memoirs to truely make sure. I don't hate any group. Just like any group their are good people and bad. I want a Pres that will side on what this country was founded on. I'm soory if you took me misspelling something for hate

[Bill-SOCAL]

Doesn't change how I feel about him. Tell me what he has done to qualify him for pres???

Nice to know that you won't let the truth stand in the way of your opinion.

Thanks for the site, but who says the site is correct? It just another web site like the million others that say its true.

Well, let's see, your sources are what people think they want to hear. This site (and many others) provide the actual quote from the book. But again, you clearly are not going to let anything sway your opinion and will continue to grasp at whatever "source" supports you while ignoring anything that ddoes not.

I'm soory if you took me misspelling something for hate

No, what I was saying is that you clearly were saying that aligning with Muslims was a bad thing. And if it were to be considered so is it not logical to assume that you have negative feelings about Muslims, or am I missing something here?? And for the record, that is NOT what he was saying. It is just what those who want to use lies to support their opinions choose to believe.

Like I said, we are all free to believe what we want, but is it too much to ask to use actual facts when trying to persuade others to believe like you do??

[azjc]

not to be political here but....

I consider myself moderate neither conservative or liberal but I do feel we need a change and McCain does not represent change and I believe more attention should be paid to whats happening to our country ( health care, economy)

[Darin Jordan]

I do feel we need a change and McCain does not represent change...

I'm just not sure how one can say that... Going a little deeper than your typical Dem campaign add... John McCain has a proven track record of making the RIGHT decisions at the right time... He's reached across the isle time and time again to pass important legislation and reform, working hand in hand with some of the more liberal Dems to get things done... He has plans for education that actually give people choices on where to send their kids... and ways to pay for them... Funny... but now Obama suddenly is on the "charter school" bandwagon... imagine that...

Sorry... but Obama represents Democratic politics as usual... He's a product of the Chicago political machine... has ties to some of the most radical members of that area... and hasn't put forth much of anything in the way of original legislation or ideas for moving this country forward or helping our situation... And let's not forget he's part of the party that is responsible for the LEAST productive Senate in the recent HISTORY of the US... they haven't done a THING... Oh, sorry, not accurate... they've passed the highest number of "symbolic" legislation in the HISTORY OF THE US SENATE...

Obama/Biden are at the extreme left... Bush is more to the extreme right... McCain/Palin are a lot closer to the middle for my taste...

[Bill-SOCAL]

And let's not forget he's part of the party that is responsible for the LEAST productive Senate in the recent HISTORY of the US... they haven't done a THING...

At the same time let's keep in mind that the breakdown in the Senate is 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, one Independent (Bernie Sanders), and Joe Lieberman, who essentially votes as a Republican. So given that the Democratic "majority" is not really a majority and the fact that the Republicans have used their filibuster power as never before during this session of the Senate I am curious what exactly you feel could have been done??

It is amusing how when the Democrats tried to filibuster they were demonized as obstructing legislation, yet I hear no such comments about the Republicans when they do the same thing. Funny, isn't it??

[TeamFubarRacing]

i suggest pistols at 10 meters for Darin and Bill SO-CAL...

i'd pay to watch

Regards,

Ron

[Darin Jordan]

i suggest pistols at 10 meters for Darin and Bill SO-CAL...

i'd pay to watch

Regards,

Ron

I couldn't do that to my buddy, Bill...

Besides... I didn't think that the Left owned any guns... Someone might have to give him a loaner!

I have a better idea anyhow... How about we just get together and see who can drink who under the table!


It's all good... Everyone has their opinions... Some think that "change" can be brought about by a first term senator, thrust on the scene by the Chicago political machine, who has spent 19-months of his 2-years in position campaigning, but has Oparah on his side, paired up with a 6-term senator who can't even make it out of his own party's primary system... And others believe "change" can be brought about by electing a war hero with a proven track record of working across party lines, bucking the system and making solid decisions, paired with a new face on the scene, who also has a track record of fighting the establishment and has 6-years of local plus 2-years of state Executive experience...

I guess it's all in what you want from your future...

[Dr. Jet]

Obama/Biden are at the extreme left... Bush is more to the extreme right... McCain/Palin are a lot closer to the middle for my taste...

Darin,

As much as I agree with you on political matters, I think you are off here. Yes, Obama/Bidin are extreme left (think European Socialists), but Bush is NOT extreme right. Nowhere close enough for me. He is more of a 1980's liberal. McCain is still too leftist for my tastes (McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy). Fortunately, and as told some friends nearly a year ago, I would vote for Sara Pailin for President in a heartbeat because she embodies more of the conservative viewpoint than your typical "inside the beltway" polititian.

I hope McCain gets elected, then opts out of a second term due to age. That would open the door to Palin for President. Maggie Thatcher part deux!

P.S. I can loan Bill some of my guns, I have "extras".

[AndyKunz]

I still wish Condoleeza were running.

Andy