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  • lectriglide
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 538

    #16
    Interesting how the media can find 17 or so (I've lost count and interest) women that Tiger Woods poked, but can't find BO's birth certificate, college records or anything else to substantiating claims he's made. Why so secretive and private if there's nothing to hide? It's just run of the mill info being sought. Maybe he's an ALIEN.

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    • m4a1usr
      Fast Electric Addict
      • Nov 2009
      • 2038

      #17
      Originally posted by Rumdog
      If Obama didn't attend Columbia, don't you think someone from Columbia would let us know?

      He attended Columbia. I dont think anyone honestly believes he didnt. Too many hits putting him there when I googled it. And I did see commentary from a class mate as well as a professor who did indeed remember him. Just not too many. However that does not matter. Nor do his grades or attendence really. The OP did get me thinking and motivated to see if there was any merit to it. I'm satisfied he graduated from Columbia from my research.


      John
      Change is the one Constant

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      • domwilson
        Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 4408

        #18
        Originally posted by m4a1usr
        The issue is that politicians step forward and volunteer themselfs to us as to be trusted for their behavior and actions. Future and past. None of us as citizens get together and meet and concur that, " hey,...this guy has the best qualifications and has answered everything I wanted to know about him" based on an interview where we could possibly ask all the pertinent questions. No. We expect them to divulge what are matters of ensuring our trust. Not protect themselves from possible criteria discounting that trust by failing to tell us. That BS.

        If they dont ask they dont need to know What a load of crap. We didnt ask them to be public servants. They stepped forward out of the crowd and raised their hands asking for the job. An elected official has made the choice of being under public scrutiny. They divulge their income and donations dont they? There is something very fundamentally wrong with any politician not allowing the very public to which he owes his employment to from gathering information about his views, his lifestyle, his criminal background, his opinion and philosophies.

        These guys are not movie stars bathing in fame and seeking shelter from the paparazzi. They are elected officials acting on behalf of the general populace and in their ability to carry out the will of that trust.

        In the last 30 years politicians have gotten better at failing to disclose matters effecting their promised performance while in office. We as a nation used to tar and feather these less then performing public officials. Today we cant even get them voted out of office due to our own in fighting or tolerance of which one would be a worse choice. So damn sad.


        John
        Generally you are correct. However, because we know very little about these crackheads that serve us, we tend to vote for the popular choice. The ones with the biggest smiles or physical attributes that appeal to us. Some will even vote because the individuals may think similarily on some issues. But, because of the pettiness that has engulfed Washington, politicians have become more guarded than usual. And that pettiness has gripped america. We tend to worry about stupid things like where a guy gives a speech or if he gives a customary bow to a foreign dignitary. We focus on irrelevant things to determine if someone can/is/capable of doing the job. Obama is not the greatest thing since bread, but we could have done worse. As President of these United States of America, we should support him (weren't we told to do the same thing with his predecesser?). We should focus on what is relevant and not on what some paid shill is telling us to think.

        I guess you can tell I so dislike the current state of the media...
        And we criticize Pravda....sheeeeesss
        Government Moto:
        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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        • Dr. Jet
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          • Sep 2007
          • 1707

          #19
          Here is one conspiracy theory I heard regarding why he has chosen to hide his University records: He may have obtained financial assistance under a program for "foreign students" thereby confirming the fact that he was not born in the USA. If that got out for public consumption.........
          A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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          • Rumdog
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            • Mar 2009
            • 6453

            #20
            Was he a foreign student in high scool? How about elementary?

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            • domwilson
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 4408

              #21
              Conspiracies, conspiracies. Are we so lost that we will entertain just about anything for direction?





              Don't forget, Obama wants manditory circumcisions.
              Government Moto:
              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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              • AndyKunz
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2008
                • 1437

                #22
                Originally posted by Rumdog
                Was he a foreign student in high scool? How about elementary?
                That depends. He may have been a foreign student while living here, and he may have been a domestic student while living in Indonesia. Or was he a domestic while living here and foreign while there?

                Fact is, only* he knows, and he's not telling.

                And therein lies the problem.

                Andy

                *only used in a slightly exaggerated sense. His mother probably would know, but she can't tell us. Maybe his wife could. His grandmother already told us he was born in Africa, but the newspapers and "reputable" news sources like CNN won't confirm it.
                Spektrum Development Team

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                • domwilson
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4408

                  #23
                  Just because the mob wants it doesn't make it right. We are a Republic where there are supposed to be a sense of right and wrong. But lately we've switched over to the mob mentality where we will follow along with which ever loon job screams the loudest. I challenge the media to start reporting facts and not speculation.
                  Government Moto:
                  "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                  • Dr. Jet
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1707

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Rumdog
                    Was he a foreign student in high scool? How about elementary?
                    Elementary and High School students don't apply for student loans do they?
                    A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                    • Dr. Jet
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1707

                      #25
                      Originally posted by domwilson
                      I challenge the media to start reporting facts and not speculation.
                      Excellent challenge, but do you honestly think the media we now have will EVER start reporting facts and not speculation when the Left is in control? Look at the last election: Did BHO ever get one "tough" question? Were there any investigations of the countless allegations against him (everything from alleged drug-dealing to his questionable citizenship, not to mention his lack of a political resume)? And how did they treat Sarah Palin? Do you think she could have hidden her birth/educational records?

                      No my friend, it appears that for the most part the "mainstream" media is just another arm of the Democrat Party; they will never accept your challenge unless it is to attack the Right.
                      A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                      • domwilson
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4408

                        #26
                        I guess we would like the same thing. Accurate non-bias'd reporting. I watch Fox, MSNBC, ABC, CNN, CSPAN (when the history, Syfy and learning channels don't have anything interesting.) and find not so much in liberalism as I do in cynacism, sensationalism, bias, incomplete and inaccurate, editorialism. With borderline conspiricacy theorists thrown in. Granted, our government does do alot of underhanded, shady, back room dealing. I don't think there is really much validity to most virtually purposeless conspiracies. However there are a few, larger purpose driven plausible ones that frankly concern me. Man has sunk so low in envolution to be a tool to own demise.
                        Government Moto:
                        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                        • Rumdog
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 6453

                          #27
                          My point is, if he wasn't foreign in elementary or high school, then he obviously wasn't in college. Come on guys, you can do better than this right? I WANT PROVEN FACTS!! If you're going to accuse anyone, prove it or keep your mouth shut

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                          • AndyKunz
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1437

                            #28
                            IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, WE LET ILLEGAL ALIENS GET FREE ELEMENTARY AND HIGH SCHOOL, NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!

                            Why should they care if he was here on his mother's citizenship? At that age, they don't. In fact, schools do everything they can to make their enrollments look as large as possible so that they can get MORE money.

                            So he could be here on his mother's citizenship, be a citizen of Timbuktu, and until he tries to get money to go to college it won't make any difference. But IF he applied for money as a foreign student, he probably would have to have proved himself one.

                            Where's his passport from those trips to Pakistan and Indonesia?

                            Andy
                            Spektrum Development Team

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                            • domwilson
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4408

                              #29
                              Just to avoid any more confusion. Obama is an Alien from the planet Nuptar. Sent here to enslave the american population because we're so special. Now show us your birth certificates! Oh wait, that info. is private....
                              Government Moto:
                              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                              • domwilson
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4408

                                #30
                                Don't forget to card him. Make sure he's carrying his "American Negro Card" because we sho's don won hum to leev hom widout dit.

                                He's in office. Imagine how dumb we would look to the rest of the world if it was discovered he wasn't eligible? Probably no different than how they view us now...
                                Government Moto:
                                "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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