Was he there?

[Rumdog]

lol. Does anyone think that the topic of his Nationality would have come up if he were white?

[m4a1usr]

Imagine how dumb we would look to the rest of the world if it was discovered he wasn't eligible? Probably no different than how they view us now...

Maybe the other nations would view us as morons but here domestically the effects to our political system would be absolutely horrendous. There would literaly be a supreme court action and or constitutional change to our election system. Not to mention probable civil disruption to our federal governments daily operations. The natives would go wild in conventional vernacular! I wish it would be true. The repercussions to our current election process would change to the opposite side of the spectrum. But true anarchy would reign at first. Hopefully little violence, but if you think it would be contained to TV reporting and legal wrangling dont discount the average Americans Angst. Heads would roll and I mean literaly!

John

[domwilson]

More than likely not. Can't remember any reference to nationality in recent history. But in today's heated political climate, people are more apt to "grasp at straws." Energy is being diverted to benign things rather than the issues that face this country. I say forget the trivial stuff and let's focus on job creation, lowering taxes, Fixing our financial and healthcare systems and putting a freeze on entitlement program growth. Fix the problems that plague the nation now and fix the world later. We should focus on America. Set the standards for everyone else to follow like we used to. Bring back the pride of "Made in the U.S.A" which used to mean quality.

[Dr. Jet]

Don't forget to card him. Make sure he's carrying his "American Negro Card" because we sho's don won hum to leev hom widout dit.

He's in office. Imagine how dumb we would look to the rest of the world if it was discovered he wasn't eligible? Probably no different than how they view us now...

Even if God came down from the heavens and showed us he was ineligible for the Presidency, we could not (and for that matter, probably should not) remove him from office. He's the Prez now and we are stuck with him. His competitor in 2012 could (and should) use that info, but for the sake of the Union, I agree that we cannot remove him now for his citizenship, or lack thereof. That is, unless congress wants to start impeachment hearings; but again, that would not be very likely or productive.

[domwilson]

Maybe the other nations would view us as morons but here domestically the effects to our political system would be absolutely horrendous. There would literaly be a supreme court action and or constitutional change to our election system. Not to mention probable civil disruption to our federal governments daily operations. The natives would go wild in conventional vernacular! I wish it would be true. The repercussions to our current election process would change to the opposite side of the spectrum. But true anarchy would reign at first. Hopefully little violence, but if you think it would be contained to TV reporting and legal wrangling dont discount the average Americans Angst. Heads would roll and I mean literaly!

John

Maybe. There would definitely be some political wrangling. People would definitely lose faith in our political system and wonder what group was so powerful to defraud the U.S.A? Our system of government would be questioned. But who knows? We'd just probably sit back and blame someone rather than trying to fix the problem.

[Dr. Jet]

Maybe the other nations would view us as morons but here domestically the effects to our political system would be absolutely horrendous. There would literaly be a supreme court action and or constitutional change to our election system. Not to mention probable civil disruption to our federal governments daily operations. The natives would go wild in conventional vernacular! I wish it would be true. The repercussions to our current election process would change to the opposite side of the spectrum. But true anarchy would reign at first. Hopefully little violence, but if you think it would be contained to TV reporting and legal wrangling dont discount the average Americans Angst. Heads would roll and I mean literaly!

John

Exactly. We're stuck with him until 2012. Let's hope the 2010 elections reign him in a bit from his radical Left-Wing agenda.

[Dr. Jet]

lol. Does anyone think that the topic of his Nationality would have come up if he were white?

Absolutely. If John the tired glue horse McCain had won and had questionable citizenship, I would think the same exact thing. Barry Obama IS half white. What makes you think the black half has any bearing on our views? Are you a racist? (note: you were the one that brought up the race issue, not me)

[domwilson]

Exactly. We're stuck with him until 2012. Let's hope the 2010 elections reign him in a bit from his radical Left-Wing agenda.

So with that said, should we worry about If he is a citizen or where he went to school? I think we have bigger issues than that right now.

[Dr. Jet]

So with that said, should we worry about If he is a citizen or where he went to school? I think we have bigger issues than that right now.

That is an issue that needs to be FULLY vetted in 2012. Arguing about it now is pointless for the reasons that John so eloquently stated: Complete chaos would ensue.

That said, someone should continue to do the necessary research.

[domwilson]

Barry Obama IS half white. What makes you think the black half has any bearing on our views?

Maybe not to you. But there are a large number of people who this does matter to. Even the ones who voted for him. Either he was the lesser of two evils or they heard what they wanted to hear from him. People were tired of the "Business as usual" mantra that our government was operating under. Unfortunately, with all the partisanship that's going on, it's "business as usual" now. They're are no longer working for the people but working for the party they are members of and the special interest groups they represent.

[Dr. Jet]

Maybe not to you. But there are a large number of people who this does matter to. Even the ones who voted for him. Either he was the lesser of two evils or they heard what they wanted to hear from him. People were tired of the "Business as usual" mantra that our government was operating under. Unfortunately, with all the partisanship that's going on, it's "business as usual" now. They're are no longer working for the people but working for the party they are members of and the special interest groups they represent.

I do know that a large portion of the black community voted for him for no reason other than his skin color, and not the content of his character.

[domwilson]

Maybe so. But that's gone on through out history. The elections are in some ways little more than popularity contests.

[Dr. Jet]

Sadly, I have to agree with that. It is now little more than an episode of "The Dating Game". Nobody cares about the man (or woman) and his convictions; they are more concerned with his hair, his height, his weight, his "attractiveness".

I said this a year ago and I stand by it: "We're screwed".

[m4a1usr]

Maybe. There would definitely be some political wrangling. People would definitely lose faith in our political system and wonder what group was so powerful to defraud the U.S.A? Our system of government would be questioned. But who knows? We'd just probably sit back and blame someone rather than trying to fix the problem.

Could be. We truely cant discount the lack of will of the masses. But I personaly wouldnt sit down and let something like this pass without action of some sort on my part. I can see a partaking in a march on the Capital of the likes never seen before. A million man march? Try 10 million angry conservatives looming in mass , on every street, blocking off traffic. More worriesome. Armed and demanding immediate action. The government could pass martial law but no official, not a cop, not a member of the military would stand against the American citizens. Clinton already tried to find out if the military would support his confiscation of firearms on a national level when it was used in questionaires to new recruits and those in training. It was a hands down failure. Few if any said they would support removing arms from citizens. When question number 43 was posed to US Marines on their questionaire, "would you fire upon dissenting Americans citizens in protest" the echo of NO was so loud that Clinton abandoned the idea of using the military to enforce his gun grabbing agenda. Thats a fact of history, not something I made up or a right wing conspiracy. The military spoke loud and unanimously. Its one of the contributors as to why Clinton was treated poorly when he boarded an American Aircraft Carrier while commander in chief. Anyone remember that little episode? Another fact of history.

We could be walking some very dangerous grounds if Obama turns out out to be an illegaly elected official. I spoke out without thinking and do not wish this upon either America or him as an official even if it were to turn out true. This could shake our very nation to conditions highly unpredictable and destructive to our way of life. The more I think of it the worse the scenario evolves.

John

[Dr. Jet]

Could be. We truely cant discount the lack of will of the masses. But I personaly wouldnt sit down and let something like this pass without action of some sort on my part. I can see a partaking in a march on the Capital of the likes never seen before. A million man march? Try 10 million angry conservatives looming in mass , on every street, blocking off traffic. More worriesome. Armed and demanding immediate action. The government could pass martial law but no official, not a cop, not a member of the military would stand against the American citizens. Clinton already tried to find out if the military would support his confiscation of firearms on a national level when it was used in questionaires to new recruits and those in training. It was a hands down failure. Few if any said they would support removing arms from citizens. When question number 43 was posed to US Marines on their questionaire, "would you fire upon dissenting Americans citizens in protest" the echo of NO was so loud that Clinton abandoned the idea of using the military to enforce his gun grabbing agenda. Thats a fact of history, not something I made up or a right wing conspiracy. The military spoke loud and unanimously. Its one of the contributors as to why Clinton was treated poorly when he boarded an American Aircraft Carrier while commander in chief. Anyone remember that little episode? Another fact of history.

We could be walking some very dangerous grounds if Obama turns out out to be an illegaly elected official. I spoke out without thinking and do not wish this upon either America or him as an official even if it were to turn out true. This could shake our very nation to conditions highly unpredictable and destructive to our way of life. The more I think of it the worse the scenario evolves.

John

John,

When it comes down to that, remember: I'm with you, and I've got your back!