What You Didn't Know About The War

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  • RCprince
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2007
    • 1637

    #1

    What You Didn't Know About The War

    Due to some graphic content:War (Reality), I will rate this PG -17.

    War is a Mother, it benefits no one except for those who don't fight it. Human Beings or is it mankind or a kind of man, who engages in such barbaric conflict resolution, under the auspices of international justice is beguiled by the very tenets they hold most dear. What sadistic deity flourishes in the grandiosity of it's existence, while it's subject cannibalizes themselves everyday? What have thy hands crafted?






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  • carsonschaos
    Member
    • May 2007
    • 30

    #2
    I'll agree that war sucks, but millions of people are better off as a result.
    As long as there are evil people in the world, war will be a fact of life.

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    • andym
      More Go Than Show Prop Co
      • Apr 2007
      • 2406

      #3
      What a sad state of affairs this is, does the army turn these people into barbaric animals or does the thought of killing without reprisal bring the crazy's to the army?
      This sort of thing makes them no better than the terrorist's they are supposed to be fighting.
      I know a lot of you in the USA will not agree and I find that disturbing. To wrongs have never made a right as the old saying goes and 51% of your taxes going to the Military ? You must be joking!!! Would it not be better spent with a sense of Humanity and Humility to help make your own back yard a better place

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      • carsonschaos
        Member
        • May 2007
        • 30

        #4
        If we hadn't fought for the better in WWII, what would all that Humanity and Humility mean??
        What about the millions liberated as a result of wars?
        What is the alternative?
        Would the world be better off letting the aggressors role over whom ever they wish.
        Sorry but I just don't get the logic.

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        • andym
          More Go Than Show Prop Co
          • Apr 2007
          • 2406

          #5
          Well a lot of people in the world and yes the world is a big place , a lot bigger than America, think that the USA is the aggressor....... WWII was not about oil........

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          • carsonschaos
            Member
            • May 2007
            • 30

            #6
            It's amazing that while nearly all the violence being committed in the world is islamic extremist, that we are still the bad guys.
            You can't watch the news without seeing or hearing about some extremist's explosive killing dozens of people.
            We spend more money and blood trying to promote freedom to people around the world than anyone, yet again we are the bad guys.
            We are spending tons of cash and sweat in Iraq, trying to help rebuild that country, and we are getting no oil in return. After the billions spent giving the people the opportunity for some glimps of freedom.
            Not sure what I'm missing.
            Personally, I'd be in favor of pulling out our blood and money from everywhere watching how fast things went to hell.
            But that would be our fault too.

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            • Rumdog
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              • Mar 2009
              • 6453

              #7
              Iraq= waste of lives, time and money.

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              • Flying Scotsman
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                • Jun 2007
                • 5190

                #8
                Originally posted by Rumdog
                Iraq= waste of lives, time and money.
                I could not agree more. The old now dead despot was haited by the Bush regime. Iraq is now a mess, who will be the leader of this fractured country?

                Afganhistan is the same problem, tribal with warlords. The Russians tried and lost!

                Pakistan is the one that worries me, and they do have the big bomb!!

                Douggie

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                • Doug Smock
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                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5272

                  #9
                  Originally posted by carsonschaos
                  What is the alternative?
                  The man asked a question??
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                  • Flying Scotsman
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                    • Jun 2007
                    • 5190

                    #10
                    Doug, my dad fought from 1939 to 1945. I am very proud of what he did, he was an officer of high rank and we had many discussions of the merit of war when I was young and stupid. He was right and I was wrong, but some of these new political and material matters upset me ....water,oil,gas, terrorists etc. but that is life in the modern world. North Korea???? We live in a world of conufusion of political ideas

                    Douggie
                    Last edited by Flying Scotsman; 11-14-2009, 02:49 PM.

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                    • domwilson
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4408

                      #11
                      I'm still trying to figure out how some of these wars protect our freedom. Iraq didn't invade the US. I thought the initial point of going into Afghanistan was to get Osama and Al Queda. Not participate in their political structure.
                      Government Moto:
                      "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                      • Steven Vaccaro
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8721

                        #12
                        Whether it was a war over illegal hidden bombs or oil, whats the difference now?

                        How has our new president changed the direction of the past? Moving a bunch of ADMITED terrorist to American soil isn't going to make the rest of the world love us. What happens if these guys get off? They were tortured. How does a judge and jury decide what evidence came from torture and not? These trials will be interesting.

                        What I'm waiting for is the spin that the left gives when these guys are let off
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                        • domwilson
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4408

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                          Whether it was a war over illegal hidden bombs or oil, whats the difference now?

                          How has our new president changed the direction of the past? Moving a bunch of ADMITED terrorist to American soil isn't going to make the rest of the world love us. What happens if these guys get off? They were tortured. How does a judge and jury decide what evidence came from torture and not? These trials will be interesting.

                          What I'm waiting for is the spin that the left gives when these guys are let off
                          The difference is all the lives that have been lost over the misrepresentations that were given to participate in the first place.
                          Government Moto:
                          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                          • Rumdog
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 6453

                            #14
                            Yep, a completely unnecessary war. And dare I say the "B" word? Oh yeah, I will. All the fault of the BUSH administration.

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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8721

                              #15
                              I agree that it sucks we had bad information. I also agree, the past administration started something they shouldn't have. BUT right now, it doesn't make a difference if the war was started by oil, arms or some other obscure thing. What is being done to stop it right now. WE were told by the Campaigning Obama that he was going to stop the war. Its been about 10 months, what is being done to stop it. Seems most of his time is spent on trying to bankrupt the country with health care. How is health care going to stop the war?

                              I also remember something about a Obama promise of removing the troops in 16 months. If this isn't accomplished, he made a campaign lie to the American public about a very serious issue. If we keep allowing people to campaign on lies, we will continually be lied to. Lots of people voted for Obama on this lie. When McCain told the truth about how long the troops would be there, he was ridiculed for it on every news channel. What do they say about "good guys coming in last".
                              Steven Vaccaro

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