HealthFear Only In America!

[domwilson]

It just gets better and better MORONS

http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/16/news...ion=2009091619

That plan looks even worse. This is the federal guidelines for poverty.. http://www.atdn.org/access/poverty.html How can someone who only makes 30k/yr pay for healthcare coverage? At 30k/yr you would have to be living in your parents basement.

66k/yr for a family of four? You're just struggling with living expenses. Who can afford coverage then? In a high cost of living area, the numbers won't work. His plan sucks!!!
To make his plan work, you would have to have a government option. He should be slapped for even submitting that one.

[domwilson]

Would you buy a used car from this guy?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/16/baucus-conrads-miserable_n_289253.html

http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/2009/06/22/the-max-baucus-health-care-lobbyist-complex/

[domwilson]

Who is really the Author of Max Baucus's plan? http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/20...-fowlers-plan/

Other issues... http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8202

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/16/report_senator_max_baucus_received_more

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/23/max-baucus-health-contributions/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpbEDkpEaxU&feature=player_embedded

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_on_go_co/us_health_overhaul_industry_reprieve

Who's best interest does this guy have in mind?

Since when has forcing americans, under penalty, to buy from corporations been legal?

I don't like this plan....

[Darin Jordan]

I don't like this plan....

I don't think anyone does... it's a non-starter... I think this is just a diversionary tactic by the WH and Dems...

Look at what they did while your head was turned... voted to take over COMPLETELY the student loan program...

Now they can tell us what cars to drive, what lightbulbs to use, where we are going to live (they own 80% of mortgages or something like that), who, why, when, and where you will be able to get your eduction...

WHAT will they control next???

[domwilson]

I think that just takes the "middleman" out of government backed loans...... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125321217589620383.html

But Baucus is a poster child for congressional term limits.

[domwilson]

Supposedly there are 5 bills circulating through congress on healthcare reform; the HR3200 and the Max "Buttkiss" version. Does anyone know what the other three are?

[RCprince]

I don't think anyone does... it's a non-starter... I think this is just a diversionary tactic by the WH and Dems...

Look at what they did while your head was turned... voted to take over COMPLETELY the student loan program...

Now they can tell us what cars to drive, what lightbulbs to use, where we are going to live (they own 80% of mortgages or something like that), who, why, when, and where you will be able to get your eduction...

WHAT will they control next???

If you pay taxes, you should get, loans and grants from Sam, Private loans may sometime have higher interest rates.

[domwilson]

Interesting article... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/health/15book.html

[domwilson]

http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/...pan-with-costs

[domwilson]

http://www.amsa.org/uhc/CaseForUHC.pdf

[rockwerks]

http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/...pan-with-costs

OK so we do away with insurance companies, What about the 5.5 million people in the us who Work for those companies?

What about the self employed like myself, I get to pay double the portion the employer and employee?

So I make 5000 per month, pay all my taxes and self employment taxes. and then on top of that I pay mandatory payments of 405 X 2 X 2 (myself and wife) So now Im paying 1620 a month for health care on top of my taxes, I now bring home about 2500 a month. Cool NOT!



How does this affect my tax base. before or after the leaches?

[domwilson]

OK so we do away with insurance companies, What about the 5.5 million people in the us who Work for those companies?

What about the self employed like myself, I get to pay double the portion the employer and employee?

So I make 5000 per month, pay all my taxes and self employment taxes. and then on top of that I pay mandatory payments of 405 X 2 X 2 (myself and wife) So now Im paying 1620 a month for health care on top of my taxes, I now bring home about 2500 a month. Cool NOT!



How does this affect my tax base. before or after the leaches?

That's in Japan. I'm sure the system would be much different here as we are a different country with different tax codes and structure. Throw in the fact that we have a much larger population, the costs would probably be significantly less. Much like in group insurance plans. But it appears to be alot better than the two plans that the media has hyped.

[rockwerks]

That's in Japan. I'm sure the system would be much different here as we are a different country with different tax codes and structure. Throw in the fact that we have a much larger population, the costs would probably be significantly less. Much like in group insurance plans. But it appears to be alot better than the two plans that the media has hyped.

What about the employees of the insurance companies?

[domwilson]

As stated in the article, private insurers operate there. They offer supplemental coverage that the basic coverage doesn't offer. "Japan has a vibrant health insurance market and in fact, many of the leading players are actually American firms, including Aflac. "

I'm not honing in on any one system. Just wanted to present alternatives to what the clowns in Washington are trying to give us. We can have a system in place that is not going going to bankrupt this country. As if bankrupt is even possible for this country.

[domwilson]

Here are the other countries who have universal health care... http://www.gadling.com/2007/07/05/wh...l-health-care/