Bad trader warnings thread

[Brushless55]

bump it up.

interesting stuff over there in the sales thread
one thing I have noticed though.....

[Basstronics]

The worst part is that its not even THAT good of a deal... Plus the guy buying it said he was new... I hope he understands what hes getting with the Genesis... Or isnt getting...

[Livewire121]

Yeah I purchased my HPR115 from Chris Genovese aka Chrisg81983 back in June of last year. The boat was to come ARTR less the batteries. But when the boat arrived it was missing the 44mm props. I contactedI wasChris and was told that he had forgotten to package with the hull. Also he was waiting on Kent to print the top deck decal.

This went on for half the summer! Then Chris tells me the props are in the mail, but when I ask for the tracking number? I was told he lost the paper that had the number.Then when the props didn't arrive I was told he had to open an investigation with USPS. To make a really long story short I never received the props or the top decal.

And the last time I heard from him was back in October. I told him that I was going to have no other option but to list him as a bad seller. And this is a quote from his second last msg to me "Lets get something straight rite now if u think your little bs about posting on ose is going to change something you are wrong. I will bend these things in half and post it for u"
And his last msg was they will be in the mail by the end of the week. Good thing I wasn't holding my breath. I've kept every text msg and every email between Chris and I, so I welcome any comment he should post.

[Chrisg81983]

1399545119983.jpgThis is in regards toEDIT livewire its always good to tell the whole story we had over 5,000 in dealingsif I was going to screw you I would of screwed you on something bigger than a set of 40 props.

story goes like this I sold Richard a boat which I should have never of doneI had to write up agreements and get things basically notarized so his wife can give him the OK not even including the countless hours of phone callsso all said and done I sent him the boat two weeks later he called me up and said props Were missing I apologized and said I'll have a new set out within the next week due to having family issues I was in the hospital with a sick family member make a long story short I had a friend of mind send out the props they Supposedly never ended up making it there. and then told Richard that I have to have a new set made then its going to take me sometime to have them back here during that time period. I was harassed by him like a school girl he called me up at least three times stating that I sold him a boat that didn't work because he didn't know how to bind the ESC to the Rx after being told what radio to use and that I had problems with any other brand and I let him know this from the beginning during that time i saw his YouTube video trying to explain how the boat was made and who built it I lost it that just set me off the edge he described the boat and details totally inaccuratewhile giving my name and locationand I do not want to be a part of that I asked him to take it off and basically he told me to go to fly a kite so that's what I did along with the 40 props so basically I will say this again you can send me the boat back I will gladly give you every penny back you do not deserve it and that's final I deal with hundreds of people a year and never once had a problemanyone that needs a set of props I've given them for free these are the only props u will get from me richard

[Livewire121]

First off my first name is Richard, but I'd rather be a EDIT I guess when you were reading my post you didn't read the last sentence. I kept every email and Whatsapp message between us. In the first pic below it shows when I sent you the cash through PayPal. That was on May/9/13, you didn't ship the boat for almost a week after that. There were some delays in the shipping of the boat with Canada customs and they held on to the package for over two weeks, before releasing it to Canada Post for delivery. I called canada post to cancel the delivery, so I could pick it up myself ( which I did ). I picked it up with a friend that owns my LHS, we took the package back to his shop and opened it there. After opening it up and removing the contents, I noticed that the props and the eagletree data cable were missing. I called you right away, to inform you that those items weren't there. You told me that you would have a look when you got home from work. When you messaged me later on Whatsapp you told me the props and data cable were still on your workbench. It was June/29/13 when I started emailing you find out what was going regarding the props. In August was when I emailed you about the refund for the props.Screenshot_2014-05-08-20-14-30.jpgScreenshot_2014-05-08-20-46-42.jpgScreenshot_2014-05-08-20-47-08.jpgScreenshots_2014-05-08-21-43-30.jpgScreenshots_2014-05-08-21-46-12.jpg

[Livewire121]

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So in your last email to me when you said you were shipping my stuff, I guess you meant the summer of 2014????

[Doug Smock]

Watch the language fellas!!
Thanks in advance.

[Chrisg81983]

Love you Richard goodbye you are still the same wack. Do you have our 400 telephone conversations recorded as well. I will say it again you don't deserve anything but an rtr boat from Kmart so send it back whenever you like. Oh and your new top deck doesn't match its looks like highlighter pink. Try me again next year you might have better luck then when I hate you a little less. Bye bye

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[Chrisg81983]

Oh and how do you think those props above would work for ya they have a ton of pitch maybe you can hit a 100 now. Remember just like t when you called me up crying i didnt sell you a 100 mph boat. That was another one of your nervous break downs I don't know how your girl puts up with you you blamed everything on her but you would really the nutty one. It really is great we got to talk this all out thanks for the opportunity. I feel like a new man. Its a shame we live so far away else I would come visit.

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[Livewire121]

Chris all you can do is try to ridicule me when you really have no defense for not shipping me what I paid you for...very childish. At the end of the day you never shipped me what I paid you for and by definition that makes you a bad trader. If this is all you can do to defend yourself against what I've proven you have said. Your replies are doing a much better job of showing your true character, much better then anything I've said about you in this thread. I'm satisfied in knowing, that what goes around comes around. And karma will return misfortune to you ten fold. So should the day come when one of your boats goes screaming across the lake doing 100mph out of site. Please post it hear, so I can tell you I told you so. You said "it's a shame we live so far away else you would come visit" if you ever have the opportunity please do. I'd be more then happy to see you face to face. Have a good night little guy.

[Livewire121]

One last thing I'd like to add, is that the build quality is excellent! No problem giving you credit where credit is due. My problem isn't with the craftsmanship, it's with you Chris the seller. And since you build nice boats, I'm sure you will sell more of them. But I also take more comfort in that any potential buyers can look your name up in this thread along with the other bad traders.

[Chrisg81983]

Richard you are forgetting the time where I offered you the cash and you denied it. I only paid 40 dollars for those props from dasboata. He could not make another set at that time. That is why I offered you the cash.

[Livewire121]

In that case Chris send the money back to me and make things right, or send me the things I paid for and make it right. It isn't to late to do the right thing.

Richard

[Chrisg81983]

Rite .......we were just talkin amongst us men at our weekend poker game and we figured out that me owing u 40 dollars on 5500 is less than 1%. So come to tink of it I am alright with having a 99% plus efficiency rating with u. I make sure its 100 with everyone else that I like. So I am OK with this because of you actions. You call me a liar and saying I never sent the first set is bs. So why should I have to pay twice for someone who slanders people. Then you hold me accountable for someone else not wanting to make you a sticker. You harassed him to when I told you he was in middle of moving shops and you still took it into your own hands. that's why you do not have the top decal ....you barely deserve a spartan.

[Livewire121]

Called you a liar, because you never ever gave me the tracking number for the first set of props you said were lost. And before you say I never asked for it, I did on numerous occasions. Regarding the top decal, yes I sent Kent one PM asking him if after he printed the decal, if he could ship it to me directly. I never sent him another message about it. But you on the other hand kept telling me that I was going to receive it, after I had sent him the PM. You also went as far as to say that when he came to the States he was bringing it with him. So what you've now said is that, because I sent him that message I was never going to get it? Also you told me for months that you were going to ship me my props. Even in your last email to me, you stated that you were shipping them in a week? Sounds like a lot of double talk Chris. Hmmm maybe you should read your own emails before you reply again, that way you can do a better job of mixing the facts of what you said, with what you're saying now. Just a thought lol.