Hello, all Offshore electric forum members! I am the party accused of purchasing a boat and trying to opt out of paying extra for delivery confirmation ??? (Would you do that for a $300 boat you just paid for?? I don't think so!!)
Before you all form opinions of me that are ultimately incorrect, I would like to let you know what really happened when I tried to purchase a King of Shaves P1 from user rctoyznhobby.
On August 31, I contacted rctoyznhobby about a post with a King of Shaves P1 for sale. He replied to me that his was sold, but that he still had one to sell. We agreed on his listed price of $300 (which included shipping). He said that as long as I didn't live "overseas", he would gladly ship for the agreed price of $300, as long as I paid via PayPal AS A GIFT. Here is the email I received from him:
my original PM: "Is it $300 shipped as well ? I can also assume that there are no cracks or chips in the boat and everything functions properly ? Please let me know."
rctoyznhobby reply: "300 shipped sending payment as gift payment with paypal. no cracks no chips nothing no defects in the decals everything works as if you just pulled it out of the box the first time yourself new my son got his drivers lic. and a car but lost intreast in the whole rc thing so i have cars sitiing around as well and trucks, he wanted to run with me. where will it be shipped to? i hope not overseas "
After this took place, I gladly paid for the boat as requested on August 31. There was never a time when I refused to "pay extra" for delivery confirmation, nor was that ever an option that was offered to me. I'm not 100% familiar with USPS, but I can be quite certain that you cannot ship a box of this size without a tracking number, nor would I ever want someone to ship a box of this value to me without a proper tracking number. I asked on September 7, 12, and 16 for a tracking number for the shipment that I paid for on August 31. I received no response until September 17, when I was provided with an incorrect tracking number. I found this out when I attempted to enter the tracking number on both USPS and Canada Post websites. The number simply did not exist. I even went so far as to contact USPS and Canada Post via telephone. They confirmed that the number did not exist.
On September 23, rctoyznhobby emailed me to say that he would look into this. He then asked, "your in Canada right"?? I had already given him my Canadian mailing address!!
Here I sit on October 2, writing this post, with no tracking number (after numerous requests), and STILL NO BOAT. rctoyznhobby claimed in his original post in this thread that I am trying to obtain both a boat and get my money back. All I want is one or the other. I have yet to receive a legitimate tracking number and have certainly not received any boat from this seller. I have privately purchased items advertised on this forum by other sellers, and have never encountered a problem. I have also purchased several orders from OSE and, once again, have never had a problem.
If anyone questions my honesty, I will gladly send you a transcript of the desperate email conversations between myself and rctoyznhobby, which clearly demonstrate that I am only trying to obtain a boat that I have legitimately paid for.
ALL BUYERS BEWARE!!!!!
I'm not going to personally call this seller, rctoyznhobby, a liar. I will let all of you decide for yourselves... from the beginning, I have been given nothing but excuses as to why the item had not yet been shipped or as to why I hadn't received a tracking number. First, was bad weather, then a "long drive to the post office", and then his "son having a serious mishap". Here is rctoyznhobby's latest post that announces why he has to sell his RC collection:
"Hello, forum members i am sad to say i have to get out of the rc boat hobby at this moment and need to sell everything. My son was involved in a car crash saturday totaled his car (not his fault) and the driver at fault was uninsured and i have to do something to cover his medical bills this is going to be a court dragout ill be luckY to get a $1.00 amonth in payments from uninsured driver...... so the best way i can do it is to give a deal to a lucky someone for what i have here it goes but please understand i will have to do this as a whole package deal due to time." (posted today, 8:55 pm)
Here is rctoyznhobby's excuse sent to me in a private email as to why I had not received my tracking number for the boat:
"i have not gotten it yet from him it is in his car at the camp ground i have to go out to pick his car up we have been at the hospital with him he was at the camp ground with his girlfriend and he was bite in the face by a dog he has went through 2 surgerys already his jaw is wired shut and they are doing another surgery today to recunstruct the jaw i have a buddy afterwork going out to pick his car up with me i will get it and send it to you i am so behind i have a box to ship to someone else and a trailer to get out for another rc boat i hoping we can get home soon we are at the cleveland clinic that is 2 hours from our home i have to go there today as soon as he is out of surgery thank you for understanding God Bless" (sent September 12, 12:35 pm)
"i am going back to post office today toship a rc car to someone i will have them get me the recipt number they usedall i did was file a claim on the insurance and a lost item reprt they did the rest. it has been hard our insurance isnt paying for the damages and hosptail bills they say the dog owner should but it wasnt the dogs fault my son loves dogs it was on a leash and he went over to it to pet it when he got attacked he still needs more surgerys and his jaw is still wired shut still in alot of pain and now we are dealing with issues of fear becouse we have 2 big dogs that he ggrew up with we have had them as puppys 6 & 7 weeks old now 7 yrs old he is afraid to touch them it has been hard to deal with" (sent September 27, 12:42 pm)
As you can see from the email messages and the latest post from rctoyznhobby, I don't even think he's too sure what has happened to his son. He seems a little confused as to whether his son was bitten by a dog or was involved in a car accident. Does this sound truthful to all of you ??
rctoyznhobby is asking $2,400 for all of the boats he is selling in the "items for sale" section of this forum. After reading my post, would you be willing to send this desperate-for-money seller $2,400 or would you sooner stand on your front porch with a lighter and burn the $2,400 for a higher level of entertainment ?? I'll let you decide!!
I know this seller has had good feedback from deals in the past, but remember, now he claiming to need money for "medical bills"... money does funny things to people. Beware!!
I will sign this off as hopefully not being the first $300 donation to medical bills.
One final comment... to rctoyznhobby: the best way to clear your name on this is to either send me my money back, or proof that you sent the boat, as it has been over a month since I paid you for it.
Signed,
Boatless
Before you all form opinions of me that are ultimately incorrect, I would like to let you know what really happened when I tried to purchase a King of Shaves P1 from user rctoyznhobby.
On August 31, I contacted rctoyznhobby about a post with a King of Shaves P1 for sale. He replied to me that his was sold, but that he still had one to sell. We agreed on his listed price of $300 (which included shipping). He said that as long as I didn't live "overseas", he would gladly ship for the agreed price of $300, as long as I paid via PayPal AS A GIFT. Here is the email I received from him:
my original PM: "Is it $300 shipped as well ? I can also assume that there are no cracks or chips in the boat and everything functions properly ? Please let me know."
rctoyznhobby reply: "300 shipped sending payment as gift payment with paypal. no cracks no chips nothing no defects in the decals everything works as if you just pulled it out of the box the first time yourself new my son got his drivers lic. and a car but lost intreast in the whole rc thing so i have cars sitiing around as well and trucks, he wanted to run with me. where will it be shipped to? i hope not overseas "
After this took place, I gladly paid for the boat as requested on August 31. There was never a time when I refused to "pay extra" for delivery confirmation, nor was that ever an option that was offered to me. I'm not 100% familiar with USPS, but I can be quite certain that you cannot ship a box of this size without a tracking number, nor would I ever want someone to ship a box of this value to me without a proper tracking number. I asked on September 7, 12, and 16 for a tracking number for the shipment that I paid for on August 31. I received no response until September 17, when I was provided with an incorrect tracking number. I found this out when I attempted to enter the tracking number on both USPS and Canada Post websites. The number simply did not exist. I even went so far as to contact USPS and Canada Post via telephone. They confirmed that the number did not exist.
On September 23, rctoyznhobby emailed me to say that he would look into this. He then asked, "your in Canada right"?? I had already given him my Canadian mailing address!!
Here I sit on October 2, writing this post, with no tracking number (after numerous requests), and STILL NO BOAT. rctoyznhobby claimed in his original post in this thread that I am trying to obtain both a boat and get my money back. All I want is one or the other. I have yet to receive a legitimate tracking number and have certainly not received any boat from this seller. I have privately purchased items advertised on this forum by other sellers, and have never encountered a problem. I have also purchased several orders from OSE and, once again, have never had a problem.
If anyone questions my honesty, I will gladly send you a transcript of the desperate email conversations between myself and rctoyznhobby, which clearly demonstrate that I am only trying to obtain a boat that I have legitimately paid for.
ALL BUYERS BEWARE!!!!!
I'm not going to personally call this seller, rctoyznhobby, a liar. I will let all of you decide for yourselves... from the beginning, I have been given nothing but excuses as to why the item had not yet been shipped or as to why I hadn't received a tracking number. First, was bad weather, then a "long drive to the post office", and then his "son having a serious mishap". Here is rctoyznhobby's latest post that announces why he has to sell his RC collection:
"Hello, forum members i am sad to say i have to get out of the rc boat hobby at this moment and need to sell everything. My son was involved in a car crash saturday totaled his car (not his fault) and the driver at fault was uninsured and i have to do something to cover his medical bills this is going to be a court dragout ill be luckY to get a $1.00 amonth in payments from uninsured driver...... so the best way i can do it is to give a deal to a lucky someone for what i have here it goes but please understand i will have to do this as a whole package deal due to time." (posted today, 8:55 pm)
Here is rctoyznhobby's excuse sent to me in a private email as to why I had not received my tracking number for the boat:
"i have not gotten it yet from him it is in his car at the camp ground i have to go out to pick his car up we have been at the hospital with him he was at the camp ground with his girlfriend and he was bite in the face by a dog he has went through 2 surgerys already his jaw is wired shut and they are doing another surgery today to recunstruct the jaw i have a buddy afterwork going out to pick his car up with me i will get it and send it to you i am so behind i have a box to ship to someone else and a trailer to get out for another rc boat i hoping we can get home soon we are at the cleveland clinic that is 2 hours from our home i have to go there today as soon as he is out of surgery thank you for understanding God Bless" (sent September 12, 12:35 pm)
"i am going back to post office today toship a rc car to someone i will have them get me the recipt number they usedall i did was file a claim on the insurance and a lost item reprt they did the rest. it has been hard our insurance isnt paying for the damages and hosptail bills they say the dog owner should but it wasnt the dogs fault my son loves dogs it was on a leash and he went over to it to pet it when he got attacked he still needs more surgerys and his jaw is still wired shut still in alot of pain and now we are dealing with issues of fear becouse we have 2 big dogs that he ggrew up with we have had them as puppys 6 & 7 weeks old now 7 yrs old he is afraid to touch them it has been hard to deal with" (sent September 27, 12:42 pm)
As you can see from the email messages and the latest post from rctoyznhobby, I don't even think he's too sure what has happened to his son. He seems a little confused as to whether his son was bitten by a dog or was involved in a car accident. Does this sound truthful to all of you ??
rctoyznhobby is asking $2,400 for all of the boats he is selling in the "items for sale" section of this forum. After reading my post, would you be willing to send this desperate-for-money seller $2,400 or would you sooner stand on your front porch with a lighter and burn the $2,400 for a higher level of entertainment ?? I'll let you decide!!
I know this seller has had good feedback from deals in the past, but remember, now he claiming to need money for "medical bills"... money does funny things to people. Beware!!
I will sign this off as hopefully not being the first $300 donation to medical bills.
One final comment... to rctoyznhobby: the best way to clear your name on this is to either send me my money back, or proof that you sent the boat, as it has been over a month since I paid you for it.
Signed,
Boatless
Nortavlag Bulc

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