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I am buying a new boat and will be running it on a pretty large lake with a lot of action. I have read enough that i want a v-hull and have narrowed it down to these two boats. Does anyone have the pros and cons of these boats? I have lots of experience in rc cars and trucks but just starting in boats.
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Welcome Kyle,
In a lake with lots of action your choice of a V-hull is a sound one. As a heads up, the Spartan has received alot of negative feedback here at the Forum, you should spend sometime reading them, I don't like to give comments on something that I don't own, but here is the truth: Back when I first saw the Spartan, I liked the size and the deep V, I know it can handle some chops. But one day I was running an UL-1 and a guy showed up with a new Spartan, I was surprised at how it felt and looked "in person". I prefer Fibre Glass Hull, that the Spartan is not, plastic is very flexible, not my cup of tea. He had only run it a few times and already smoked the ESC, was on his warrantied second ESC, of course that was V1 of the Spartan. I decided then and there that it is not for me. Current V2 has a CC Engineered ESC.
A few members here modified their Spartan so it runs reliably, but in my opinion this is not for a first time buyer. I know you have alot of experiences with RC, just be aware of these issues.
I have a Pursuit instead, it is shorter , about 4" shorter than the Spartan. I 've been happy with the boat. http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...suit-Mono-kits.
Have you also looked into the Aqua Craft Revolt 30 besides the Impulse 31?
You will get many helpful suggestions , hope you will find the boat you like and for the enviroment you will be running in.
Cheers!
Here is my Pursuit running in a lake somewhere in Idaho, next to a boat launching ramp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOGsqg8mdCM As you can see, the boat is running wet (front heavy) because I wanted to make sure the boat would run more stable in that wind and the occasional wave.Last edited by tlandauer; 02-23-2013, 05:06 AM.Too many boats, not enough time...
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I have all four mentioned and have to say the pursuit is my favorite. Especially for rough water.
The spartan isn't as bad as people say as long as you realized its limitations. Taping the lid in suck though.
The impulse is a fun boat but is more suited to smooth water and also likes to stuff in the rough stuff and sometimes on glass.
The revolt is cool and fun to drive, fast and only needs one 4s 5000mah to run a long time stock. Iffy for really rough stuff but its light and won't crack up on you because of its lightness.
I'd go with one of ose or kintec pursuit's for your application.
Here's mine. It was pretty rough that day.
white geico w/2200kv 3674 leopard 53.5mph 4s2p, geico w/ 1800kv outrunner 52mph on 4s2p, genesis w/2200kv castle 53.8 on 4s2p, impulse 31 w/2200kv castle, stock p1 and ul-1
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I did look a the revolt a little. The paint is what really caught my eye on the impulse. I did not see the Pursuit untuill you just mentioned it. I am going to have to consider that one. I really like it. Would i save money buying them as a kit over rtr? I am looking to beat my brother with his new spartan this spring. He is also new to the rc boating world.Comment
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OSE here calls it "kit" but from what I gathered by reading in the "FOR SALE" section, it is practically a RTR, Steven has up-graded the cable to a one piece.
Stadiumyamaha also mentioned www.kintecracing.com, they have what is called "PURSUIT UPGRADE" also RTR, I don't remeber if you need to provide your own radio, but they have the motor and the ESC.
Take a look at the Kintec and OSE version, from the rear they are not the same, Kintec uses a stinger where as OSE has a strut. The KV rating is the same at 2200kv, you need to know if Kintec is 4082 sized tho. I believe OSE uses 4082 Leopard.
Note that at 2200kv, the set up is for 4s, if your brother uses cell count higer than 4s, the Spartan may hold an edge over your speed.Too many boats, not enough time...Comment
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I have a Spartan, and it is great for what I bought it for: Ocean bashing. I ran it with the stock electronics for a summer and never smoked anything, had it running at 77km/h the first weekend completely stock. It runs well with a metal prop but nothing with more pitch then stock. As soon as you prop up the ESC will get to hot and cut power. I have since upgraded to a T180 and 4082 1600KV and it runs really cool no matter what prop I put on it. I quite like it for running in the ocean as I am not trying for high speeds. I have even run it across a bay of open water along side a boat I was in and it was choppy! That was fun, My second recommendation would be the Kintec Pursuit also, if I had seen that first I would have bought it over the spartan probably.
I did flip it on the first weekend and the top came off in the air, and it filled with salt water. It was fine but after that I re-enforced the hatch so it can't flex and come off but I also tape it. Tape is a must.Comment
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yup. Kintec uses Leopard 4074, 2200kv, Ose uses Leopard 4082, 2200kv. The latter is a longer motor which is really a 4s2p set up, (mine is like that). I think the amp draw is higher and therefore the parallel set up helps runtime and is less taxing on the battery. In truth, the 4074 is just as good, and you can use a single 4s , perhaps.Too many boats, not enough time...Comment
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@ Bikergreen, you got me intrigued, how many cells do you run now with your present set up? I have been looking for an ocean basher myself but don't want to spend the money to buy a rtr, I did think of buying a hull and use their hardware, but may turnout to be more expensive.
Only reason is I like the siWonder if those bare hulls are pre drilled and ready to accept hardware? Sorry, don't mean to hyjack, just thinking out loud.Too many boats, not enough time...Comment
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Not a problem, love to read and learn. I am trying to buy Mark in MN's revolt 30. Looks like a great deal and can always upgrade electronics. Waiting for response.Comment
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After opening up the box on my new Impulse 31 (V1), today, I wished I would have just purchased a 2nd Revolt 30 when TowerHobby had them on sale ..... Looks like I'll be calling Horizon on Monday. I was just amazed that someone at the factory, where ever it was "assembled", could put it in the box with the motor so poorly aligned. Thought it would be simple to just loosen the two screws and re-align it, but I think there must have been glue on the threads through the inserts in the wood (or maybe some really good loctite?). The heads were mostly destroyed trying to get the screws loose. The flexshaft also has a permanent "kink" in it, too. Here is a picture of how poorly the motor was aligned "right out of the box". I like Pro Boat (I have 3 other fiberglass hull ProBoats), but this one has me scratching my head. Here is a photo of what it looked like.
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Man, that sux, hope you can get refund or replacement. sorry to see that!Too many boats, not enough time...Comment
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Just bought revolt 30. Thanks guys for all the help with my decision..Comment
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The hulls have specific locations for hardware to screw into on the inside of the transom, which makes it hard to install anything other then the stock hardware. At least the RTR comes with lipo's now, but it would be nice to be able to buy one without batteries and radio. For ocean use its great with the system they have which allows you to pull all the electronic, and stuffing tube out of the hull to clean and service. I think you could buy hull and hardware and the electronics mount for a decent price. I have some extra hardware.Comment
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Good call on the revolt, I still want one actually. The stock electronics are pretty good, maybe upgrade the ESC down the road but the motors are good.Comment
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I plan on upgrading the esc to a turnigy or hobbywing 180a so i can run 6s. Probably have to go with a lower kv motor to though.Comment
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