The "KINGKONG BUNDY " of brushless inrunners

[Punisher 67]

Chris fine sells them:


30 HP Model
10 pole
25,000max rpms
10mm Shaft
22,000
watts

600

500

41

4.4

5"x5"

Special Order
2 week delivery time
1885.00

Looks like a 200% mark up if thats what he's asking - no thanks not from him . Ray I do not see them anywhere on his site .

[Doby]

http://www.finedesignrc.com/motorsne...ackdiamond.asp

[forescott]

Honestly, what the heck kinda batteries would you need.... I mean this is just ridiculous. I have to see this behemoth in use lol

Wait! I found a battery!

[Heaving Earth]

Lol
Maybe a few Duracell will do

[Heaving Earth]

On a serious note, what size hull would this be for?

[ray schrauwen]

Maybe a kneel down hydroplane, what do they call'em sea fleas?

[ray schrauwen]

This is a tad big but, eventually...

[siberianhusky]

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...15S_OPTO_.html

maybe something like this? Or the monster Jeti Spin.

http://mgm-compro.com/index.php?tid=brushless-speed-controllers-tmm-40063-3-x-series-32-bit-system

or this 400 amps cont. at 63V!

LOL think it would be cheaper to go turbine! Especially once you start buying the batteries!

[srislash]

Well,this is the first sign of sales that I have seen on these Nano Phosphates http://www.a123systems.com/lithium-i...te-battery.htm
If you poke around you can get some info on them.

[Heaving Earth]

A123 has two labs a mile down the st from me. I always wanted to go in and ask about hobby grade batteries

[srislash]

I would be curious as to what info you would get from these guys. I had heard that these would be smaller and more juice. In reading their site apparently you can pull them down more than Lipo's safely.

[Brushless55]

How about one of those 84" monos!

[c_michael_72]

Chris Fine sure does sell TP motors, including the 30 HP monster. He markets them as Black Diamond Nemesis and has claimed on numerous occasions that "his" line of Black Diamond Nemesis motors are "new to the market" from am "aerospace company" he's been working with in China.

His entire line of Black Diamond motors are nothing more than marked up TP's. The same motors available on fightercat for less than half the price. I'm not one to impede a man's method of livelihood, but when lied to, on numerous occasions in attempts to sell overpriced, falsely marketed motors, a line has to be drawn. Not that this will surprise some of you, but on the models where TP paints their logo on the cooling fins and cooling can, he goes so far as to grind/wire brush off all the branding...ask me how I know.

Chris fine sells them:


30 HP Model
10 pole
25,000max rpms
10mm Shaft
22,000
watts

600

500

41

4.4

5"x5"

Special Order
2 week delivery time
1885.00

[ray schrauwen]

He is the only one US dealer to offer Mainly or Only "Y" winds. Since TP and other Tp dealers mainly advertise "D" winds, he is actually offering something different,

Yes, I agree his prices are the steepest.

Chris Fine sure does sell TP motors, including the 30 HP monster. He markets them as Black Diamond Nemesis and has claimed on numerous occasions that "his" line of Black Diamond Nemesis motors are "new to the market" from am "aerospace company" he's been working with in China.

His entire line of Black Diamond motors are nothing more than marked up TP's. The same motors available on fightercat for less than half the price. I'm not one to impede a man's method of livelihood, but when lied to, on numerous occasions in attempts to sell overpriced, falsely marketed motors, a line has to be drawn. Not that this will surprise some of you, but on the models where TP paints their logo on the cooling fins and cooling can, he goes so far as to grind/wire brush off all the branding...ask me how I know.

[c_michael_72]

Good Morning Ray. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and to defend Mr. Fine...nothing wrong with that whatsoever. However, regarding your point about offering something "different", I'd lean toward thinking that just because other retailers choose to "mainly" or "only" offer a specific wind or size, doesn't mean they won't or don't order their customers whatever motor they desire. I know personally that TP is easy do deal with, even directly. I guess my main point was that in fact he lied to me on multiple occasions. Boo Hoo, right? This is nothing new in the world of sales but it deserves being exposed when identified. Just my opinion.

Wrapping this around back around to "on topic" discussions, I can say that TP's have performed "somewhat well" in my limited experience with them. I most certainly don't have the 30 hp monster motor, but have ran their 8400 watt 6 pole in a short cat. It logged over 10,000 watts on several occasions and never broke a sweat.

He is the only one US dealer to offer Mainly or Only "Y" winds. Since TP and other Tp dealers mainly advertise "D" winds, he is actually offering something different,

Yes, I agree his prices are the steepest.