Littlescreamers 63mmwater jacketed Motor

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  • Steven Vaccaro
    Administrator
    • Apr 2007
    • 8720

    #31
    Originally posted by sailr
    In the meantime, the 650KV will swing a huge prop! On 10S, the no load RPM is 24,050!
    I agree, the bigger the prop, the better its efficiency.
    Steven Vaccaro

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    • Doby
      KANADA RULES!
      • Apr 2007
      • 7280

      #32
      Originally posted by sailr
      I believe Scott is considering higher KV versions in the future. In the meantime, the 650KV will swing a huge prop! On 10S, the no load RPM is 24,050!
      Agreed, my LMT 3080 in my Open Mono is a 12T (around 490 KV) and it hauls ass with a very large prop on 10S.
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      • RandyatBBY
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2007
        • 3915

        #33
        Scott look at this
        Hello Randy,

        thank you for the links.

        Has the motor a third ball bearing for the can?

        The mechanical loads on the motor are much higher in a boat (when the boat is jumping) than in a ducted fan.

        Additional you have huge torque peaks in a boat but in a ducted fan and also with an airscrew you have constant torque.
        So if a motor works well in a ducted fan or with an airscrew - it is no guarantee that the motor fits the application in a boat.

        Plettenberg outrunners and large Hacker outrunner motors have always a third ball bearing to avoid mechanical forces on the rotor. Such a third ball bearing avoid resonance effects and prevent a contact between the rotor can and the stator.
        HINT: Plettenberg makes no outrunners for boats, because outrunners have not enough dynamic torque for the torque peaks!

        Best regards
        Ulf Herder

        Schulze Elektronik GmbH
        Prenzlauer weg 6
        64331 Weiterstadt
        Germany
        Randy
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        • video200
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 837

          #34
          Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
          There has been a bunch of success wih this motor and kv, so as far as I know this is the kv for now.

          Scott, designed the motor as a performance replacement for customers that what to replace modified zenoah motors. On 10s it will have more rpm and on 12s it will have much more rpm.
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          depending on how much rpm it looses when loaded it should proove one he.. of a replacement. my zenoah`s run between 12k rpm original up to 18200 race modefyed on 63-70mm props and they move pritty goo

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          • Steven Vaccaro
            Administrator
            • Apr 2007
            • 8720

            #35
            At 75% efficiency its about 18k. It should easily get that kind of efficiency. Otherwise its a 2 pound paper weight.
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            • RandyatBBY
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2007
              • 3915

              #36
              Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
              At 75% efficiency its about 18k. It should easily get that kind of efficiency. Otherwise its a 2 pound paper weight.
              That is what I am looking for 18k RPM, but the amp draw remains to be seen. I need a eagle tree that can handle this setup any ideas? I really need to see what is being pulled, constant draw and spikes.
              Randy
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              • Steven Vaccaro
                Administrator
                • Apr 2007
                • 8720

                #37
                Originally posted by RandyatBBY
                That is what I am looking for 18k RPM, but the amp draw remains to be seen. I need a eagle tree that can handle this setup any ideas? I really need to see what is being pulled, constant draw and spikes.
                Well for testing sake, we can dictate the amp draw.
                4500 watts divided by 37 volts is 121 amps. I understand its not exact, but its a start. Prop it for that and you should be ok. A regular eagle tree micro can handle that for testing purposes.

                The guys that are testing it are using the hifei 200amp esc. I have the boat version on order.
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                • Ub Hauled
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 3031

                  #38
                  Edit: It was a Medusa item... no longer in service.
                  :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                  • Steven Vaccaro
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8720

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ub Hauled
                    Randy, have you seen this little fella?
                    Its pretty cool. Doesn't look like the wire version is available yet. I wouldn't use the deans ones with 120-150 amps.
                    Steven Vaccaro

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                    • RandyatBBY
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3915

                      #40
                      I am going to prop small and recharge after the run and see the amp draw. I will also be checking the temps to get it right on firday.
                      Randy
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                      • Brushless55
                        Creator
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9488

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Doby
                        I just ordered one. Going to try it in my 42" Cat on 10S
                        That is what I'm looking to try out!
                        and these 42" cats should scream and kick some mod Zehn
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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #42
                          I would also love to Build a Insane Gas Hydro with one of these motor, and run with the $1,000 mod gas motors on 10s, then go 12s to really make em grunt
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                          • RandyatBBY
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3915

                            #43
                            I ran the Motor in the pro Boat this weekend it ran great with a 455 prop in the 56MPH range and the motor was cold. I tried a biger prop a pitched up 460 it cavitated and needs a lot more testing . Videos soon it is up loading at this point.

                            For any one that needs a motor mount I do make them for any size rail.
                            Randy
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                            • Doby
                              KANADA RULES!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 7280

                              #44
                              Randy, were you running 10S2P?
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                              • RandyatBBY
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3915

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Doby
                                Randy, were you running 10S2P?
                                Yes. RC Polly 5S1P 5000Mah 30C X4
                                Randy
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