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  • detox
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jun 2008
    • 2318

    #16
    I once talked to Jim over the phone about a prop for my Raptor Rigger. The man sounds very knowledgeable and told me alot about proper setup being MOST important (more important than custom cupping). He also told me how to harden his ABC props.

    Clean Prop

    Heat prop in oven on 4" x 4" copper plate @350 degrees for 20 minutes

    Ramp up heat to 600 degrees for 40 minutes

    Remove then air cool prop on seperate cool 4" x 4" copper plate with drive hub facing downward toward plate

    You can purchase 1/8" Copper plate at Mcmaster.com. I purchased a 4" x 12" piece. I will cut this into three 4" x 4" pieces. Part number 8964K412
    McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.


    .........................

    I copied and pasted this post from another forum. Jim @ ABC telling how to harden his props:

    On Our Alloy
    We DE-STRESS at 340F for 20Min (VERY IMPORTANT)
    Then re ramp the temp to 594-608F at a rate of 28.8' F per min
    We hold for 40 min to 1.5hrs depending on the prop
    We then AIR COOL at room temp on a cool copper plate
    Drawing the heat out of the drive side of the hub.
    The prop must be CLEAN
    Fingerprint oil can even cause hot-spots
    The blades must not touch anything during heat up or cool down.
    Final sharpening is done after.
    Higher temps and longer time seam to have little effects.
    Salt or Lead bath Heat-Treat is a + if one can control the temp within 0.5'F
    The lower the BE content the Higher the Temp and Time
    Our Alloy can and has Been Treated to a Rc45 in production apps.by other Co.
    The Major proplem I see with breakage is do to
    Thinning
    Bar-Cutting
    Back-Cutting
    Prop-Racing
    Other prop Cuts are far more effective
    Proper Sizing and strut placement of Props seems to still be the major problem.
    Changing from a Copper Alloy to a Stainless Alloy only cures one problem.
    THE BOATER STILL DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO WORK THE PROP AND SET STRUT HEIGHT AND ANGLE.
    All Manu. work very hard to let the average boater go faster.
    Set up is still the major factor.

    By the way
    Jerry at Seaducer set the records with Our Alloy
    NONE WERE HEAT-TREATED.
    Proper Sizing and Set-up was the KEY.
    THE MAN CAN GO FAST.

    The Black Magic of Props
    Go Fast
    Jim

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    Last edited by detox; 02-10-2010, 03:17 PM.

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    • tth
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2008
      • 1510

      #17
      Any eta on the next shipment of props?
      * BBY Lift Master RIgger * Insane Gen 2 Cat * Aeromarine Avenger Pro Twin * Delta Force Cyber Storm * Delta Force 41" Mono * H&M Viper II * H&M Intruder * OSE Raider Hydro * Whiplash 20 * Brushless Mini Rio *

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      • tth
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2008
        • 1510

        #18
        Any word on these ???
        * BBY Lift Master RIgger * Insane Gen 2 Cat * Aeromarine Avenger Pro Twin * Delta Force Cyber Storm * Delta Force 41" Mono * H&M Viper II * H&M Intruder * OSE Raider Hydro * Whiplash 20 * Brushless Mini Rio *

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        • Steven Vaccaro
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 8720

          #19
          Its just a matter of getting time. I just can't make more of it.

          I need to get all these items pictured and added to stock.
          Steven Vaccaro

          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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          • Doug Smock
            Moderator
            • Apr 2007
            • 5272

            #20
            Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
            Its just a matter of getting time. I just can't make more of it.
            But if you find a way please let us know. I'll take a big box of it!
            Doug
            MODEL BOAT RACER
            IMPBA President
            District 13 Director 2011- present
            IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
            IMPBA 19887L CD
            NAMBA 1169

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            • tth
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2008
              • 1510

              #21
              Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
              Its just a matter of getting time. I just can't make more of it.

              I need to get all these items pictured and added to stock.

              I hear ya' brother......... I have the funds waiting for some shiny new cleavers. I know you have been busy with the day job and cleaning up all the wet stuff( I hope everything and everyone was alright!)

              Regards,

              Tracy Hatch
              * BBY Lift Master RIgger * Insane Gen 2 Cat * Aeromarine Avenger Pro Twin * Delta Force Cyber Storm * Delta Force 41" Mono * H&M Viper II * H&M Intruder * OSE Raider Hydro * Whiplash 20 * Brushless Mini Rio *

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              • Steven Vaccaro
                Administrator
                • Apr 2007
                • 8720

                #22
                Sorry for the delay guys. I should have held off talking about it until I was closer to getting them.

                After a bunch of phone tags and emails. I just finalized the order with Jim.
                I have coming each of every prop size he has to 60mm. So all of the following

                cleavers to 2.3
                choppers to 2.3
                h series to h18
                s series to s-20


                I've also attached the newest prop list.
                Attached Files
                Steven Vaccaro

                Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                • tharmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 342

                  #23
                  what's the diff bet chopper and cleaver?

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                  • Steven Vaccaro
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8720

                    #24
                    cleaver is like a octura v 937 looking prop. chopper has rounder ears. I will put pictures up when they are listed for sale. Its all pretty confusing. pictures help a ton.
                    Steven Vaccaro

                    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                    • BakedMopar
                      No Mo Slipah
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1679

                      #25
                      What's the different handling characteristics between the different styles?
                      If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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                      • Steven Vaccaro
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8720

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BakedMopar
                        What's the different handling characteristics between the different styles?
                        You got me! All I do is sell them
                        Once you see them, you will see that there are similar styles with other well known props you have used or seen out there.
                        Steven Vaccaro

                        Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                        • tth
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 1510

                          #27
                          Man I cant wait until these guys come in...... I got prop fever!!!!
                          * BBY Lift Master RIgger * Insane Gen 2 Cat * Aeromarine Avenger Pro Twin * Delta Force Cyber Storm * Delta Force 41" Mono * H&M Viper II * H&M Intruder * OSE Raider Hydro * Whiplash 20 * Brushless Mini Rio *

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                          • Steven Vaccaro
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8720

                            #28
                            Off the top of my head I have about 150 plus on order. He doesnt stock them all. Because of the new labels and renumbering, I'm sure Jim is up to his ears in my props.
                            Steven Vaccaro

                            Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8720

                              #29
                              Sorry for being so slow. I recieved all the props about 2 weeks ago and finally found some time to start getting them listed.

                              All the 2 blade cleavers are listed up to 58mm
                              http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/cat...ABC+Propellers

                              H series and S series are up but no pictures. I will be working on that today.

                              http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...ies+Propellers

                              http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...ies+Propellers
                              Steven Vaccaro

                              Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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