Mid Atlantic Boaters, lets break the FE barrier in IMPBA D12

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  • Chilli
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2008
    • 3070

    #166
    Hey Ben. I appreciate your concern and input. The number one reason I picked the three motors is because other districts (IMPBA and Namba) have been using these motors in their spec/limited class with success. These motors are comparable in power, readily available and relatively inexpensive. They are also comparable in power to .21 nitro motors which gives the district more options to include FE classes in the district this year. Using the same motors that other districts use also gives racers from outside D12 the opportunity to race with us.

    Now, what about other motors? I'm not an EE and I dont have any idea what the criteria should be. Kv, motor size, wattage? Are we going to have to dyno each motor to make sure one does not have a significant advantage? What happens when a new motor comes out that meets the criteria and is more powerfull. I'm afraid everyone who wants to be competetive will run out and buy that motor. Which then also defeats the spirit of the class.

    I have not heard of any major problems with the three selected motors burning out. And from what I read, these motors have been pushing tunnel hulls to 50 mph and riggers into the mid to upper 50's. Yes, if you over prop them, you will shorten their life. And yes people with deep pockets will probably push their equipment a little harder to try and gain an advantage Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it. Fortunately, a well tuned boat and good driving usually will more than overcome a performance advantage. One of the first things I learned at a race is the fastest boat does not always win. Usually they are the first one on their lid.

    Anyhow, Thats why I choose those motors for our spec class.
    Last edited by Chilli; 02-23-2010, 01:21 AM.
    Mike Chirillo
    www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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    • Doug Smock
      Moderator
      • Apr 2007
      • 5272

      #167
      Good post Mike.

      If I remember right you will find the new FE rules in the Dec. 2008 Roostertail. The rulebook should be updated by the end of the year hopefully.

      Good luck fellas!!
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      • Chilli
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jan 2008
        • 3070

        #168
        Four days to the meeting in Richmond. Another pleasent surprise that I have learned over the last week. There is a good chance P-spec tunnels are going to make a showing in the district this year. It looks like we have four current members that either have or are building tunnel boats. So it's going to be an interesting meeting. As soon as I get back Saturday afternoon, I'll let you all know what transpired and I should also have the race dates for the season.
        Mike Chirillo
        www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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        • Meniscus
          Refuse the box exists!
          • Jul 2008
          • 3225

          #169
          Thanks for the input Mike. I wasn't trying to change anything, but simply trying to understand why one motor is OK and another one isn't. If the motivation for this class was to be cost effective, then I was indicating that there are some $25 to $30 motors that are easier on a budget. In any case, I wasn't questioning your decision regarding what motors to run. After all, you are right about deep pockets. I've had a few different BJ26 motors in the past and one was significantly better than the other. I guess if you have deep pockets, you could order 10, bench test them and return the ones that didn't perform.

          Thanks for the info on Roostertails, I'll look that up for more info.

          I'm glad to hear that others will have some tunnels to run. I like all the effort you've made to generate interest in the FE classes. It is greatly appreciated!!!

          Do we have any rules about twin setups??
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          • Chilli
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jan 2008
            • 3070

            #170
            No Worries Ben. I've always welcomed input from you guys. Even though I've taken the intiative, it's not just about what I want. Besides, winter in our neck of the woods is about building boats and bench(keyboard) racing. If it was warmer, we would be at the pond. Anyway, there was a loooong thread on the subject of spec motors on RRR a few months ago where the pros and cons were discussed. After a page or two,I got tired of reading it. I took the same approach in coming up with rules that I do when I build a boat. I'm relatively new at this so I tend to do what has worked well for others. Now to tell you the truth, most that have raced classes combined have warned that it may not work out very well. But I consider this a transition year. I just want to get as much FE exposure in the district as possible this year. I think the rest will work out on its own.

            I don't think there are any IMPBA classes for twins. Districts do run them. The only one's I have ever seen were Twin nitro riggers. Something that may be confusing that we have to separate is that there are IMPBA classes that are in the rule book and Club/District classes that are not. The P-mono class is a IMPBA class. There spec classes that we and other districts run are District classes. There are Spec classes in the IMPBA rule book, but they use brushed motors and are not as popular. The IMPBA gives districts the flexibility to run what they want. The rule book is like reading Chinese the first few times you read it. So you guys continue to ask questions if you dont understand something you read.
            Mike Chirillo
            www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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            • Meniscus
              Refuse the box exists!
              • Jul 2008
              • 3225

              #171
              Don't worry, I use a translator...

              ...his name is Mike
              IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

              MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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              • Chilli
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jan 2008
                • 3070

                #172
                Close this puppy out Danny!!!!

                Mike Chirillo
                www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                • HOTWATER
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2323

                  #173
                  Mike, How did the meeting go? I'm guessing you are going to start a new thread since you asked Danny to close this one...

                  -Kent
                  "Will race for cookies!"
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                  • Chilli
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3070

                    #174
                    You missed the new thread Kent.

                    http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ad.php?t=13021
                    Mike Chirillo
                    www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                    • HOTWATER
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2323

                      #175
                      Aha!!!

                      -Kent
                      "Will race for cookies!"
                      IMPBA D12
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