Mid Atlantic Boaters, lets break the FE barrier in IMPBA D12

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More good news guys. I just got a email from Timothy Jones from the Old Dominion Club. It looks like they are going to keep their pond at the high school for one more year. So if you guys decide you want to join, now would be a great time to let them know your out there. Tell 'em I sent you. Also it looks like there are now three spec tunnels that want to run. I believe they all belong to the OD club. Thank you all for your support!!!

Mike

I have talked to folks at Debbie's RC and they were very optimistic about the club being stable for the the time being.

[HOTWATER]

I finally got my IMPBA number !!!

I will be in P-mono and P-spec hydro.

I am stoked and ready to race!


Edit: I have also contacted ODMBA about becoming a member.

Whoo- hooo! You are now official!!!

What are you going to run for P-spec hydro Chuck?

-Kent

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Kent I think I will run the UL-1 to start but may switch to the H&M XS2 if I find it is legal.

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More good news guys. I just got a email from Timothy Jones from the Old Dominion Club. It looks like they are going to keep their pond at the high school for one more year. So if you guys decide you want to join, now would be a great time to let them know your out there. Tell 'em I sent you. Also it looks like there are now three spec tunnels that want to run. I believe they all belong to the OD club. Thank you all for your support!!!

Mike

Mike I did send an email about joining and I mentioned your name along with a couple of others they should know.

[Meniscus]

As most know, I'm a sport boater. I've looked over the rules and am having difficulty determining what the length requirements are for the various classes. Can someone point me in the right direction?

I have the following:

Mono
4s1p, 4s2p, 2s2p:

• H&M No Step 1 = 22.6" Length

3s1p:

• Tenshock Eco = 16.8" Length - which I don't believe is legal, even if I change the motor/batt setup

Hydro
4s1p, 4s2p, 2s2p:

• H&M Viper Turbine = 24.2" Length
• Blizzard Rigger = 22.2" Length
• X-Crab Evo Rigger = 27.4" Length -hope to have running if I have time

Tunnel/Cat
4s1p:

• Blackjack 26 = 26" Length -not stock power or hardware

I'm looking for input regarding how to fit these hulls into what you'll are planning to run. Again, I don't have any stock motors such as UL1, SV26, or BJ26, but I have many other motors I could use.

Thanks for the input.

[Diegoboy]

I guess if one can squeeze 4S in it, it's P spec?

[Chilli]

Hey Guys,

"P" is a power classification basically meaning 4S (14.8v) power . All the classes we are proposing will be using 4S power. You can use one 4s pack, two 2s packs in series or 4s2p. It's all good. Spec classes have to run a specific motor. In our case, either the UL1,BJ26 or SV27 motor. The "P-spec hyrdo" and "P-spec tunnel" class will require one of the designated spec motors. The "P-mono" class allows any motor.

I cant find the IMPBA Rules on the web site that has the trial rules that we are currently under. But if memory serves, there is no minimum length for most classes. I believe there is a maximum's, but I don't think it will be a factor.

But as far as boat size. The bigger the better. If you're racing with five other boats, allot of chop gets created. You will get swallowed up by the water in a small boat. Often, it is not the fastest boat that wins a heat.

Now if you guys want to try racing and want to keep the investment down to a minimum. Why not run novice class? The only rule is you cannot run riggers. You can run any battery and motor you want. You can run sport hydros or any other hull other than riggers. Entry fees are only five bucks and you get to whoop up on nitro boats. Most of the nitro boats run in this class are the RTR Aquacraft Miss Vegas boats. Me and my son lapped them every heat we ran last year. Just something to consider.

I have a used UL-1 speed controller that has a blown cap. I bought it used but understand it will work if a cap is added. If any of you guys (FEMBOTS) want it, it's yours.

Any other questions, fire away.

[HOTWATER]

Kent I think I will run the UL-1 to start but may switch to the H&M XS2 if I find it is legal.

Sweet!! Should be fun!!

-Kent

[HOTWATER]

As most know, I'm a sport boater. I've looked over the rules and am having difficulty determining what the length requirements are for the various classes. Can someone point me in the right direction?

I have the following:

Mono
4s1p, 4s2p, 2s2p:

• H&M No Step 1 = 22.6" Length

3s1p:

• Tenshock Eco = 16.8" Length - which I don't believe is legal, even if I change the motor/batt setup

Hydro
4s1p, 4s2p, 2s2p:

• H&M Viper Turbine = 24.2" Length
• Blizzard Rigger = 22.2" Length
• X-Crab Evo Rigger = 27.4" Length -hope to have running if I have time

Tunnel/Cat
4s1p:

• Blackjack 26 = 26" Length -not stock power or hardware

I'm looking for input regarding how to fit these hulls into what you'll are planning to run. Again, I don't have any stock motors such as UL1, SV26, or BJ26, but I have many other motors I could use.

Thanks for the input.

Ben, could you use one of the three spec motor listed in your X-Crab? That may work out...ecspecially if you can run a 4S lipo in it....

-Kent

[Meniscus]

Thanks for the info.

I don't mind running a smaller boat since I can setup more stable for that application.

I don't have any spec motors at this time and so, I'll be available for p-mono or p-hydro.

If I could figure out a spec motor, whould I have to run a spec ESC as well or does it only apply to the motor?

Thanks for the suggestion on the X-Crab, but I'm afraid it will cook any spec motor since it's difficult to get on plane. It most likely will smoke any ESC I have presently as well.

[Chilli]

Hey Ben,
Acutally P-mono is the only non spec class. Hydro and tunnel classes will be required to use the spec motors. I wrote the rules proposal to be as flexible as possible. So if you can get your hands on a spec motor, you can use any speed controller you want. And like I said, I have a UL1 controller you can have.

[Meniscus]

I understand. I'm not sure if I'm going to manage a spec motor at this time as I'm not really buying anything. We'll have to see what I can manage.

I appreciate the offer for the ESC, but I don't really need it. It will be much better served helping out another boater who has the need.

[Chilli]

Okay Ben. If there is anything I can do for you, just ask.

[Meniscus]

Thanks, the same offer goes to you.

[Meniscus]

Can we define spec motor? Is it limited to SV27, BJ26, UL1 motors or is it any RTR motor?

I'm always confused when it comes to spec classes. The spirit of the rules is to keep the boats in competitive speed ranges at a lower cost then unlimited options. That being said, IMHO, I think it's ridiculous that I can't purchase an Ammo motor with the same or less KV and still be able to meet requirements.

Let's say someone wanted to use a smaller model, but use the motor from ProBoat's WidowMaker at 2900kv. That's a stock motor.

I'm not trying to bend the rules here, but simply wanted to voice my opinion regarding the "spirit" of the rules. Why not make it Turnigy motors at 1/3 the cost or outrunners that can handle the larger props and limit the total KV rating in order to race? It just seems silly to force someone to use equipment that you have to overprop to be competitive, just to smoke an ESC or buy a bigger ESC to accommodate. Meanwhile you're buying the stuff out of China anyway for the RTR's.

After all, these spec motors were designed to be used with boats that measure 26-27" Now we're asking them to push 31"! You better have some good batteries in there, which are more expensive, otherwise you'll lose those too.

OK, I said my piece. I think the idea is there, but the rules will eventually have to be revamped as these "RTR" manufacturers release new china versions of their stuff. It's just hard to have fun while justifying the extra cost for a spec motor when there's additional risk, more so than a cheaper, more conservative setup available to the tune of 30-40% reduction in cost.