It's Official- IMPBA D12 is racing FE's in 2010 !!!!

[Chilli]

I have no idea what to expect. Just want to be prepared. Me and you are the only P-mono's as far as I know so we have to play nice if we want to run. Hopefully someday we can run our own class and let her rip.

[Chilli]

Since there are no major objections on this board or the International Waters board by D12 members, I have submitted the FE Rules found on post 9 of this thread to Don for final approval. The D12 web site is being updated by the new administrator and the 2010 district race dates have been posted. Nothing left to do now except build some boats and go racing!!!

[D. Newland]

Just thinking out loud about P Mono and what I would show up with if I were in your shoes.

I think I'd put my P Offshore setup on the water for the first race. It's very fast as it's my P mono setup with an X445 rather than an X450 (shaved to an X448), but safe on the amps and It will run for nearly 5 minutes. Get out on the clock, do 2 mill laps, race the 6, then the cool down and into the dock. I bet that would be a total runtime of 2:45 +/-.

[Meniscus]

...Me and you are the only P-mono's as far as I know so we have to play nice if we want to run....

I'm planning on running that little No Step 1 for a good showing. I'll jump over the wake in the back, no problem. I believe I can set it up fairly stable, but it'll only be going 40-42mph.

Just trying to help

[Chilli]

Thats awesome Ben. Stable is better than speed!!!

David what motor are you running with those props? Chuck and I are running the 1515 1Y. With a 642 I could do one mill lap, 6 heat laps and the dreaded cool down lap and thats about all my Etti 150 could safely handle. I just put a CC 240 in my Titan 33 and the cool down lap will no longer be required.

[Diegoboy]

Does my Pistolero22 count? It begins with P

[D. Newland]

My P mono setup is a Titan 33, 1521 1.5D, Castle 240. I guess that would have been good info to share! I was just making a general comment that a/any P Offshore setup may be an option for that first race.

[Chilli]

Thats cool David. Appreciate the info. I was thinking you were probably running the 1521. Do you run any ballast on your Titan to keep her on the water? I have about a pound of lead in mine.

[egneg]

I tried to call Dick at ODMBA today but got a recording ... will try again tomorrow.

[D. Newland]

Nope.

I use 4S2P 10,000 G3 25C Hyperion's. I'm not sure where I'm at w/the COG measurement...but the cells are 1/2 way tucked under the forward deck, if that makes sense. Motor aft of the cells. I kept dialing in tab/strut trim until it gave a slight hint of bow steer in calm water by myself, then I backed it off a hair. It's the only P mono that finished all 6 heats at the Az race 2 weekends ago. In fact, I can't recall the last time that boat DNF'd...P mono and P Offshore at the '09 Nats-nope. P Offshore at the Az race 2 weeks ago...nope...2008 Canadian Nat's took 2nd place in P Offshore behind Peterson, but I don't recall DNF'ing. Won P mono there with it, too.

Sorry-got side-tracked. Needless to say that boat likes to come back to the dock.

[egneg]

I just got off the phone with Dick and things are good to go ... he seems to be very receptive to FE and told me quite a bit about the tunnels they are building. Looking forward to running with the guys!

[Meniscus]

For clarity sake, does the tunnel have to have an FE outboard or can it have a mock outboard setup for the look and in fact be an inboard? I'd hate to consider something like that if it isn't going to be allowed.

In the spec class, it's the stock motor with no modifications or ever being opened up. For the unrestricted motor class, is there anything that would prevent someone from taking the motor apart and apply thread to keep the magnets in place or is it any motor period, modded or not?

Also, for these racing classes, only 4s and a maximum of 2p is allowable? Could someone explain why a 2s2p setup wouldn't be acceptable? I'm not trying to change any rules, but I am interested why it is 4s vice 'up to 4s'.

[Chilli]

Ben, Tunnels have to be outboard powered. In the P-Spec class, no modifications to the motor are allowed. In the P class, anything goes. For the batteries, I just adopted the NAMBA rules which is what the memebers that attended the D12 meeting wanted. Looks like the voltage range in the rules cover 3S and 4S.

In other news, the race flyer was posted for the first D12 race (Carolina Showdown) in the International Waters Forum and there are no FE classes listed on the flyer. It is customary to include all the classes that the district chooses to run on the race fliers. FE's were not the only classes excluded. A few nitro classes that are in the D12 points series were also left out. Obviously I am not happy about this. But rather that getting in a pissing contest with the gentleman who posted the flyer, I'm keeping quiet for now because I feel this is District matter. Don is aware of the situation. I talked to my club president and he assured me the matter will get straightened out. I just hope this is not a trend that the other clubs will follow. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of all we have worked for over the last year.

[dirtysouth31]

maybe they dont have a headcount of willing participants to warrant a fe race that day..and its club dependant to include it,if odmba is ok dont mean the others are

[Chilli]

Hey Don. Good hearing from you. Since we are running combined classes this year, I thought it would be a no brainer. Plus I would think the host club would have an obligation to let racers outside the district know that the B's and P's will be racing together. I know a few of the D13 guys will show. Blaise said all IMBPA classes can run if there is enough participation, but P-hydro and P-tunnel are not IMPBA classes. They are district classes. Thats just my opinion and I'm sure it aint worth a hill of beans so I won't get involved. It would be nice to see the FE classes on the flyers though so we can attract new racers. I PM'ed Doug Smock and he described what was happening as growing pains. I thing he hit the nail on the head.