It's Official- IMPBA D12 is racing FE's in 2010 !!!!

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  • Diegoboy
    Administrator
    • Mar 2007
    • 7244

    #16
    Originally posted by Diegoboy
    While running a brushless motor, we typically remove the motor decal to install a water jacket correct? What's to stop someone from getting one of these Ammo 36-56-2600 and passing it off as a UL-1 spec motor 36-56-2030? Both are the same gold color, both are the exact same dimensions. How would one know? Shouldn't there be more validation for this?


    Either it's already being done and it's a touchy subject, or it's an incredibly stupid question. I hope for the latter.
    "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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    • Chilli
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jan 2008
      • 3070

      #17
      Guys, there is no douby we're bending over backwards to address all concerns brought up buy the nitro guys. But considering my son and I were the only FE's in the district last year and despite some nitro racers feeling like they're being squeezed out, we are getting 3 FE classes next year. I feel the district has been more than generous to us. As David said, we're breaking new ground and I think we need to do everything we can to prevent conflicts and animosity. There are still advantages FE's will have over the nitro boats. FE's don't come off pipe. FE's don't flood when they cross a roostertail. And from what I see FE's seem to have more punch off the starting line when the buzzer goes off. I consider this a transitional year and I have no idea what the future brings. But I'm feeling pretty confident. We already have four nitro racers who will be running tunnels this year and two that will be running hydro's.

      Randy, I'll be interested in taking a look at the rules you come up with. And I'll let you guys know what problems we encounter as the year progresses.

      Danny, Someone briefly brought up tech inspections at the district meeting and no one saw the need for it. These guys have been racing a long time and are great guys, but if they notice a boat noticably outperforming the others, they will not hesitate to jump on that drivers behind.

      Mike
      Mike Chirillo
      www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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      • Doug Smock
        Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 5272

        #18
        That's one good thing about "Limited" setups. If a guy is cheating a flag will be raised. You should be able to hear the difference between those two motors.
        Danny is it too late to send that 36-56-2600 back??LOL

        Once you guys get going this DNF thing should work itself out. IME the CDs at dist. races are pretty forgiving.
        Concentrate on getting on the clock and holding your line.
        Watch the heats you are not running in. Pay attention to the guy who gets on the clock and wins races. Get to know him, and ask him to be your pitman if he's not busy. A good pitman makes a BIG difference, and will make you a better racer.

        Sorry for rambling, I just want ALL of you guys to do well.
        Doug
        MODEL BOAT RACER
        IMPBA President
        District 13 Director 2011- present
        IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
        IMPBA 19887L CD
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        • Chilli
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jan 2008
          • 3070

          #19
          Originally posted by D.Smock
          Once you guys get going this DNF thing should work itself out. IME the CDs at dist. races are pretty forgiving. Doug
          I agree, the CD's know you spend alot of time, effort and money to come to their race and they want to let you run. Even if they take a little heat for it.
          Mike Chirillo
          www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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          • Diegoboy
            Administrator
            • Mar 2007
            • 7244

            #20
            Originally posted by D.Smock
            Danny is it too late to send that 36-56-2600 back??LOL
            Doug
            Yes it is. No worries though, I have special sound dampening mats inside my hull that are specifically designed to alter the frequency of any high rev motor to a much lower freq. It is said to match the sound of any lower rev motor with the proper fomula of density.

            It's very simple really
            = UL-1 motor sound

            See??
            "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
            . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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            • Doug Smock
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 5272

              #21
              Originally posted by Diegoboy
              Yes it is. No worries though, I have special sound dampening mats inside my hull that are specifically designed to alter the frequency of any high rev motor to a much lower freq. It is said to match the sound of any lower rev motor with the proper fomula of density.

              It's very simple really
              = UL-1 motor sound

              See??

              Well done sir!!
              MODEL BOAT RACER
              IMPBA President
              District 13 Director 2011- present
              IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
              IMPBA 19887L CD
              NAMBA 1169

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              • Meniscus
                Refuse the box exists!
                • Jul 2008
                • 3225

                #22
                That is hilarious!!! And coming from the one person who would never bend the rules as long as he's aware of them.

                On a side note, I'm trying to get in touch with a buddy who received a SV27 motor as part of collective generosity to help him get on the water. With any luck, I'll be able to swap his motor out for a new one that's more appropriate for his setup and have a spec motor for the races.


                So, no catamarans this year? Did I read that right? Oh well, I guess it will have to be exhibition only.
                IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

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                • egneg
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 4670

                  #23
                  So Danny how does that work exactly?

                  Does it resonate at one of the lower frequency harmonics?
                  IMPBA 20481S D-12

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                  • HOTWATER
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2323

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Meniscus
                    That is hilarious!!! And coming from the one person who would never bend the rules as long as he's aware of them.

                    On a side note, I'm trying to get in touch with a buddy who received a SV27 motor as part of collective generosity to help him get on the water. With any luck, I'll be able to swap his motor out for a new one that's more appropriate for his setup and have a spec motor for the races.


                    So, no catamarans this year? Did I read that right? Oh well, I guess it will have to be exhibition only.
                    Awesome Ben! Do you already have an AC esc to use?

                    Danny...you crack me up!!

                    -Kent
                    "Will race for cookies!"
                    IMPBA D12
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                    • Meniscus
                      Refuse the box exists!
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3225

                      #25
                      Originally posted by HOTWATER
                      ...Do you already have an AC esc to use?...
                      I have a PB one. Are we going to allow mix and match?

                      And BTW, the frequency oscillates with harmonics with inverted phase. As you can see from the picture, as the original sound wave crests and wanes, the out of phase signal negates the additional amplitude and as this phase is shifted, the original frequency harmonics are shift to resonate lower. Just read up on Pythagoras and his 'music of the spheres' as well as other theories. When a string is split in half, you get an octave, in thirds you get a perfect 5th, and so on and so forth. If you apply this reasoning as you adjust the phase, you can cause a different, lower harmonic to resonate more prominently than the primary since the primary is canceled out. You know I'm just kidding with ya, but it is true!!!
                      IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

                      MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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                      • HOTWATER
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2323

                        #26
                        "I have a PB one. Are we going to allow mix and match?"


                        ....Yes, you should be fine as long as it is a spec esc and spec motor...

                        -Kent
                        "Will race for cookies!"
                        IMPBA D12
                        My Gallery: http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/album.php?u=1738

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                        • Diegoboy
                          Administrator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 7244

                          #27

                          I can't get my formula to work... Plan B

                          WTB:
                          UL-1 Motor decal. In good condition, you pay shipping please.
                          "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
                          . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                          • egneg
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 4670

                            #28
                            I have received my registration for ODMBA.
                            IMPBA 20481S D-12

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                            • Chilli
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3070

                              #29
                              Excellant.

                              I got your props today. Nice job as always. I'm going to send you a X440 next week if thats okay. It will be my "dont spank the nitro" detune special.
                              Mike Chirillo
                              www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                              • egneg
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 4670

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Nautiboyz
                                Excellant.

                                I got your props today. Nice job as always. I'm going to send you a X440 next week if thats okay. It will be my "dont spank the nitro" detune special.
                                An X440 ... sounds to me like you are giving away the race?

                                I think you may have some cavitation problems.
                                IMPBA 20481S D-12

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