2009 NAT'S results???

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  • Steven Vaccaro
    Administrator
    • Apr 2007
    • 8720

    #31
    Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
    Hey Steve, typically guys are running about 26-29mph in oval trim.
    A safe finishing speed would be around 27-28. What has it taken to get the BL stuff screaming? an enormous prop? Sub-surface?
    Thanks for the info Bill. Right now they are not that fast. 24mph is all I could muster in oval trim. I've tried some radical props and most ran the same speed or slower. I did try a 17 series octura prop, it was faster but wouldnt get on plane without a toss. The best prop I found for both takeoff and top end was a x642. I have a m645 cut down to 42 and a m645 to test out next.
    Steven Vaccaro

    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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    • Grimracer
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 662

      #32
      Originally posted by RandyatBBY
      There was some problems but I think it is Broad casting problems and more voltage on the transmitter would help. Of course the sponsored racers can not admit any problems.

      Randy,

      First and foremost good job at the race.. Looks like you had it together and must have been on your game.

      Im not sure.. maybe you can help me out.. what if any sponsored (radio Im assuming you are referring to) were at this years event? I know that no Futaba drivers were there (looks like we might have missed out!)

      DJ was not there twisting for Team Horzion.

      Billyo says he is an Airtronics Driver… does that leave us with Billyo and some Hitec drivers?


      Cheers!

      Grim

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      • RandyatBBY
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2007
        • 3915

        #33
        Originally posted by D. Newland
        Steve-I'll see if I can get some heat times from N-2 mono. My boat was a Delta 25, Hacker 5L and an X440/2. Castle 240, Marinepower EON 28 4950's 2S2P. I'd guess that it was in the high 1:40's/low 1:50's for heat times as the P monos were in the low 1:40's/high 1:30's. Without having specific times, I'd easily venture to guess that Doug Peterson had the fastest N-2 mono on the water that whole weekend, including his N-2 Offshore setup.

        Randy-I'm happy with 2nd in LSO with the Patriot, but I really wanted the 1st place in that class to go back-to-back with the '08 Nat's. I just had nothing left for Twaits in LSO...in P mono...in P Offshore...etc, etc.
        Doug is hard to beat, I have done it, but on the average he allways comes out on the top. My OM29 saw it first heat racing at the 2009 Nats it was a new boat. So it got dialed in a little.
        Randy
        For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
        BBY Racing

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        • T.C.
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 236

          #34
          So...are the result a deep dark secret?
          No one can post all the classes in some kind of order with who won 1,2,3 in ea. class?
          Or am I missing something?
          T.C.

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          • Boatman
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 796

            #35
            Its not that easy. MMEU was running the show and their forum is based on RRR which went down for a short time being hacked by hackass's. They should have results on their site soon but as stated they need a week or two to relax. The winners know who they are I am sure but most again only post on RRR. Not much competition between the forums but thats just where they kinda grew up. Results will come soon. I was just hoping to hear some hometown boys had won a race or 2!

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            • T.C.
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 236

              #36
              OK ?
              Thanks for clearing that up ? I think?
              T.C.

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              • BILL OXIDEAN
                Banned
                • Sep 2008
                • 1494

                #37
                Originally posted by Grimracer
                Randy,

                First and foremost good job at the race.. Looks like you had it together and must have been on your game.

                Im not sure.. maybe you can help me out.. what if any sponsored (radio Im assuming you are referring to) were at this years event? I know that no Futaba drivers were there (looks like we might have missed out!)

                DJ was not there twisting for Team Horzion.

                Billyo says he is an Airtronics Driver… does that leave us with Billyo and some Hitec drivers?


                Cheers!

                Grim
                I know of a full fledged Hitec driver present, and spektrum DID support the race with a givaway radio. Wait, a Spektrum test pilot was there and I haven't heard him boast or brag once, and he did a SPLENDID job

                I was hoping to see more futaba guys..
                The whole radio sponsorship thing is fun to me.

                I'm SUPER proud to be with Airtronics, and its great to see other guys show pride in their radio ride by wearing shirts, stickered up boats etc.

                I'd have to say radio tech has come a long way with ALL of the mfgs and that's a blessing to our hobby.

                My driving gets better with the radio tech. My M-11x feels like the perfect radio for me. The response time allows me to save blowovers, and miss bougheys like never before. It used to be when that bow got to a certain height, its over but now I can get outta' the throttle and actually save it in time..

                Here's my driver profile. I'm a full factory Team Airtronics driver


                Scroll to the bottom..

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                • sailr
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 6927

                  #38
                  Bill, I have a couple of the Airtronics 2.4ghz radios. They are Sweeeet and the price is great. Where can I get some decals?
                  Mini Cat Racing USA
                  www.minicatracingusa.com

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                  • chuckc
                    Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 56

                    #39
                    Hey guy's here's the info I have. I think this is the correct standings, but I'll qualify that by saying Unofficial til Fred S gets Race Manager to spit it out.

                    OPC 1st Dave Newland, 2nd Mike Ball (also new Record), 3rd Bill Oxidean
                    LSO 1st Doug Twaits Jr, 2nd Dave Newland, 3rd Ken Joye
                    Q Mono, 1st Ken Haines, 2nd Mike Martin, 3rd Doug Twaits Jr
                    P Hydro, 1st Doug Twaits Jr, 2nd Randy Naylor, 3rd Dave Newland
                    Ult Offshore, 1st Doug Twaits Jr, 2nd Ken Haines, 3rd Mike Paganelli
                    Production, 1st Ken Haines, 2nd Marc Cerankowski, 3rd Chuck Crawford
                    10th Scale, 1st Sean Cordova. 2nd Chuck Alarid, 3rd Rod Sanata

                    Concour's 10th scale Rod Sanata

                    P Offshore, 1st Doug Twaits Jr, 2nd Dave Newland, 3rd Ken Haines
                    N2 Offshore, 1st Dave Newland, 2nd Doug Peterson, 3rd Ken Haines
                    N2 Sport, 1st Ken Haines, 2nd Dave Newland, 3rd Mike Ball
                    Q Offshore, 1st Mike Paganelli, 2nd Mike Martin, 3rd Doug Twaits Jr
                    P Spec Hydro, 1st Doug Twaits Jr, 2nd Alan Nayman, 3rd Howard Tucker
                    P Mono, 1st Doug Twaits Jr, 2nd Dave Newland, 3r Larry Jaques
                    LSH 1st Doug Twaits Jr., 2nd Mike Ball (UL-1), 3rd Terry Davis(Whiplash) Don't remember what Boat Doug ran, sorry
                    8th Scale, 1st Alan Nayman, 2nd Steve Reesor, 3rd Eddie Hansen
                    Q Sport Hydro, 1st Terry Davis, 2nd Mike Paganelli,3rd Fred Siewert
                    N2 Mono, 1st Dave Newland, 2nd Doug Twaits Jr, 3rd Larry Jaques
                    Ultimate Sprint, 1st Ken Haines, 2nd Mike Martin, 3rd Mike Paganelli
                    N2 Hydro, 1st Mike Paanelli, 2nd Doug Twaits Jr, 3rd Joe Kazmierski
                    P Sport Hydro, 1st Randy Naylor, 2nd Larry Jaques, 3rd Sean Cordova
                    N1 Mono, 1st Bill Oxidean, 2nd Tom Costello, 3rd Jay Stolz
                    T Hydro, 1st Howard Tucker, 2nd Mike Paganelli, 3rd Ken Joye
                    Q Hydro, 1st Doug Twaits Jr, 2nd Mike Martin, 3rd Ken Haines

                    Winners of the 2009 Michigan Cup Team RumRunner, Doug Twaits Jr, Mike Paganelli, Mike Martin

                    High Points Winner DOUG TWAITS Jr 8392.25 points (unofficial)
                    MMEU :Home of the Michigan Cup
                    HOST CLUB OF THE 2005 and 2009 N.A.M.B.A. NAT'S
                    Driver of the P-3 MCX 3rd Place 09 Nat's Production Class

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                    • chuckc
                      Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 56

                      #40
                      BytheBy, I was using the UL-1 Aquacraft 2.4 radio and receiver and never had a glitch. IMO the best bang for the $. Used it in Production and LSH, NOOOOOOOOOOO Problems Hats off to Mike's people
                      MMEU :Home of the Michigan Cup
                      HOST CLUB OF THE 2005 and 2009 N.A.M.B.A. NAT'S
                      Driver of the P-3 MCX 3rd Place 09 Nat's Production Class

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                      • chuckc
                        Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 56

                        #41
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                        MMEU :Home of the Michigan Cup
                        HOST CLUB OF THE 2005 and 2009 N.A.M.B.A. NAT'S
                        Driver of the P-3 MCX 3rd Place 09 Nat's Production Class

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                        • longballlumber
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 3132

                          #42
                          Thanks for posting the results Chuck. I think a couple of the finishes are a little confusing because of the tie in points. I am not sure about the others, but I listed the changes for my finishes below. I am sure that once Fred is feeling better, we can get the heat racing program he used to spit out some results...

                          For those that don't know how NAMBA works, when you have a tie at the end of an even, whomever has the better heat racing time gets the place. They also use this timed heat to determine heat racing records. In my case, I tied in points for two different classes.

                          Spce OPC
                          1st - Dave Newland (Hull Aquacraft TS2)
                          2nd - Mike Ball (Hull - Aquacraft TS3) I submitted paperwork to NAMBA for a new heat racing record at 1:52
                          3rd - Bill Oxidean (Hull - BBY)

                          LSH
                          1st - Doug Twaits 2000 pts (Hull - Larsony I think)
                          2nd - Terry Davis 1725 pts (Hull - Whiplash)
                          3rd - Mike Ball 1725 pts (Hull - Aquacraft UL-1)


                          Since Terry had the better heat racing time he got the tie breaker.

                          N2 Sport
                          1st - Ken Haines
                          2nd - Dave Newland
                          3rd - Doug Twaits - 825 pts
                          4th - Mike Ball - 825 pts (Hull - Vac-u-Pickle, Hydra 120, Hacker 7L, and MOD Octura M445)


                          Doug and I tied for third place with 825 points. However, Doug had a better heat racing time so he received the third place trophy, and all I could do is watch him pick up more wood.

                          Thanks
                          Mike
                          Last edited by longballlumber; 09-29-2009, 08:17 AM.

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                          • hebner
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 647

                            #43
                            Mike,
                            In Spec OPC your hull was a TS3 is this a new boat from Aquacraft.

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                            • longballlumber
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 3132

                              #44
                              Originally posted by hebner
                              Mike,
                              In Spec OPC your hull was a TS3 is this a new boat from Aquacraft.
                              this was a Prototype hull that was lent to me. It's my understanding they would like to produce the hull, but due to time and other projects it won't be anytime soon.

                              Thanks
                              Mike

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                              • hebner
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 647

                                #45
                                Have any pics?

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