This Just In : L.A. NAMBA SAWS ; Day One : Seven new ( & smokin') FE Records Set

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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #16
    Another update... Wilmer upped the M2 Hydro record... it's now 71.4mph! DAMN!!
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • viper1
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 218

      #17
      Must be something wrong with the radar gun, I do that regularly on empty batteries, oh wait, that's km/h!
      Wisdom is knowing how little we know

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      • Chris Harris
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 182

        #18
        "That's fierce" as he says...LOL

        Chris
        I.M.P.B.A. Record Holder P-Hydro 111.001mph Q-Hydro 120.192mph S-Hydro 139.233mph

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        • Stinger9D9
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 355

          #19
          Originally posted by Darin Jordan
          Another update... Wilmer upped the M2 Hydro record... it's now 71.4mph! DAMN!!
          >70mph on 1 cell? WOW!

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          • graill
            Retired
            • Oct 2008
            • 389

            #20
            This is the one i want to see

            "Tyler's going for the fastest FE record in the world at over 142mph ; stay tuned."

            Hope you do it Tyler, the current record holder has a keg of some pretty good stuff for the guy that breaks the record, or so i am told.

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            • properchopper
              rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
              • Apr 2007
              • 6968

              #21
              Final Talley - TWELVE new NAMBA FE SAW Records and two Gas NAMBA SAW Records

              Three dark-to-dark days; very little sleep; but here's the results : (more details/pix/vids after some recovery time). It's impossible to pack into a late evening post the absolutely amazing time this event was. Will try soon.

              TWELVE NEW FE RECORDS - TWO GAS

              P-Spec Hydro - Brian Buass - 83.987mph

              P-Hydro - Brian Buass - 114.976mph

              P-Ltd Tunnel Brian Buass - 65.029mph

              N-1 Hydro - Bill Oxidean - 56.744mph

              M-2 Hydro - Bill Oxidean - 71.656mph

              N-2 Offshore - Tyler Garrard - 72.023mph

              N-2 Mono - Tyler Garrard - 76.323mph

              P-Mono - Tyler Garrard - 80.616mph

              P-Offshore - Boyd Marshall - 93.711mph

              T-Offshore - Boyd Marshall - 106.080mph

              P-Ltd Mono - Tony Heller - 54.450mph

              P-Ltd Sport Hydro - Jim Johnson - 69.832mph

              G-1 Sport Hydro - Mark Grim - 97.650

              G-2 Hydro - Mark Grim - 103.xxx

              After I catch up on my sleep, I'll sort through & upload some vids. Here's Boyd's P-Offshore record run with a special parking job at the end :

              Last edited by properchopper; 11-05-2012, 02:46 AM.
              2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
              2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
              '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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              • RaceMechaniX
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2007
                • 2833

                #22
                Another crazy weekend is finally over. Fingers are sore and face and neck are nice and toasty from three days in sun from 6am to 6pm. Many thanks to all that showed up and to my teammates Brian, Mark, Kim and Don who all worked tirelessly to put on these events. The highlights had to be the superb water for three days and Kim’s cooking. We had at least six hours every day of 100mph+ water which rarely happens all three days and we are only talking about 10 hours or useable light. Most of the usual suspects were present including myself, Brian Buaas, Mark Grim, Don Maher, Tony Heller, Boyd Marshall, Mark Ferreira and Wilmer Oxidean. Darin and Jay were missed, but we suspect they will return the next event. We had several new comers including Jim Johnson who is a long time Nitro and gas guy who set a new P-Ltd sport hydro record just shy of 70mph and I don’t think he cooked a motor all weekend. We also had Brian Neel show up with not one, but two prepared HPR T-Offshore cats. A rare sighting was Jack and Steve O’Donnell who ran an A-Hydro and X-Hydro. Roger Pane, a local D19 gas racer showed up with a twin inline gas rigger which ran a fast pass of 92mph. A very sweet tone as the twin left the beach. Jeff Michaud ran several passes with his G4 Mobster sport hydro and Brent Dailey was present helping with gas props.

                Personally I had a lot of hopes to go fast with a new Q hydro I designed and built last year. I will detail the build in a separate thread. I repaired the old Q-Hydro rigger which had some fire damage and was missing half of its paint. I opted for a two pronged approach: One lightweight high RPM set-up in the old rigger and a high power set-up in the new carbon rigger. The old rigger was a wood and carbon build weighing in at a little under 5 lbs less battery. The high power carbon rigger weighed in a tic under 6 lbs less battery. I also brought out my favorite DF26 set-up for N2 and my X-hydro which stayed in the truck the whole weekend.

                I started off the weekend running the DF26 as an N2 and right off the bat nailed a 76.4 and 76.2mph back to back pass in glassy water. You could not ask for a prettier picture of a mono just riding on the last inch of the hull. 50k RPM has a sweet sound going through the traps.

                I moved onto the Q riggers and quickly found out I had taken several steps backward in development. I was running 10-20 mph slower than last season with similar props. We tried unloading the motor with different props, switching motors and still little improvement. Eventually we brought out the set-up board and two teammates said "this is all wrong, let’s just cut these off" referring to the rear shoes. On one boat they knocked off fairly easy, but on the carbon boat it took a forceful hammer blow to break the bond. Both boats improved and the lightweight boat creeped up to 117mph. The high power one was still slower.

                As Sunday rolled around we shifted from "Ludicrous Speed" to "Stupid Speed" logic. This means putting such high kv motors into boats that one of two things are going to happen: "Smoke on the water" or hopefully "HOLY SMOKES!" So I put the lightweight Q boat away and said "let's try the high power Q system on S voltage." So in went 8S1P into the carbon rigger with a smaller prop and all looked good off the beach. The first pass "Whhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeee" looked awesome, but the lights failed so no time or speed. Tried to run it back and after crossing my own wake the tail blew and threw the shaft right out the back. If we had to guess it was around 125mph. Sounded sweet. So I made another cable and asked Brian "do you have another one of those" to which he said "No. but I have this one with more pitch" with a his big grin. Well it was a little too much pitch and the caps blew right out the of the speedo to no one’s surprise. So I learned some more valuable insight about rigger design and we'll have another iteration for the next event.
                In between runs of the riggers I switched out the N2 motor for a very very hot 4 cell motor and just rewired the 2S2P into 4S1P and tried running for P-mono. I can say 4100kv is a little high for the props we had, but believe it or not nothing was hurt other than one trim tab. I switched to a lesser kv motor and reran the DF26 through the lights. Again the little hull did not disappoint 80.7 and 80.5 mph running as perfect as can be. Boyd had brought out a N2 cat so I was not planning on running for the N2 offshore record, but he had problems getting the cat to run so Sunday morning I reinstalled the N2 power system in the DF26 and ran one decent pass at 75 and a crooked 68 mph back up pass and put the boat away.
                I ended the weekend a little disappointed that neither rigger ran very well, but the one pass on S power did put a smile on my face and the little DF26 just keeps impressing me. I will try and rerun with a super hot P set-up and see just how fact this little hull can go.
                It cannot be emphasized how much you are rewarded and humbled by SAW racing. I went 80mph with a 26” mono that I barely had to work on and at the same time had to scrap a years a worth of designing and building of a one-off carbon rigger. It’s an addiction that will continue to be fueled by the great people that show up to events and offer their assistance even if it means loaning you that one super special never to be duplicated SAW prop that you fold over like a candy cane in the Arizona Desert (pic to follow).
                There is a lot more to summarize, but that’s a start.

                Tyler
                Tyler Garrard
                NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
                T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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                • Doug Smock
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5272

                  #23
                  Congratulations fellas!
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                  • SweetAccord
                    Speed Passion
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1302

                    #24
                    Ok the pic's are up. Visit my Album: 2012 Legg Lake SAW http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...p?albumid=1009

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                    • Chris Harris
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 182

                      #25
                      Nice pics SweetAccord, brings back a lot of memories.

                      Great job everyone those are some serious numbers!


                      Chris
                      I.M.P.B.A. Record Holder P-Hydro 111.001mph Q-Hydro 120.192mph S-Hydro 139.233mph

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                      • Chilli
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3070

                        #26
                        Nice recap Tyler.

                        Great numbers guys. Good work!
                        Mike Chirillo
                        www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                        • SweetAccord
                          Speed Passion
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1302

                          #27
                          Here's a pic of Tyler enjoying the event. IMG_0987.jpg Tony wanted that I take this pic.......LOL. Enjoy Tony!!

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                          • thomaslambo
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 232

                            #28
                            Originally posted by SweetAccord
                            Here's a pic of Tyler enjoying the event. [ATTACH=CONFIG]88066[/ATTACH] Tony wanted that I take this pic.......LOL. Enjoy Tony!!
                            That's a high speed/performance trade secret my friend

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                            • SweetAccord
                              Speed Passion
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1302

                              #29
                              Originally posted by thomaslambo
                              That's a high speed/performance trade secret my friend

                              I call it multi-tasking LOL! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1XAh304YWU

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                              • properchopper
                                rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6968

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SweetAccord
                                I call it multi-tasking LOL! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1XAh304YWU
                                Tyler, we're working on bringing the Porta-Potty closer to the pits for next race
                                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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