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  • Timothy L
    Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 45

    #1

    What classes do these models run in?

    I'm learning about NAMBA classes and I'm a little confused. Could someone clarify for me what classes these fast electric models would race in please?
    1) Zipp kits 33FE rigger
    2) Insane Boats FE30 sport hydro
    3) Zipp kits G30 tunnel

    Thank you.
  • TRUCKPULL
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 2971

    #2
    It depends on the motor that you use and the number of cells.
    "P" classes are 4Cell
    Q is 6Cell
    S&T are 8 to 10 cell
    For "P" Limited class 4 cell and a motor of 36mm X 60mm MAX.

    Larry
    Last edited by TRUCKPULL; 02-10-2024, 06:46 PM.
    Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
    Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
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    • Timothy L
      Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 45

      #3
      Thank you Larry -
      So the rigger hull style can be raced in P-limited or P as long as the motor size, number of cells, and length are within class limits (on rule pages 28-5 and 28-7)? I don't see anything on those electric pages which distinguish between mono hulls, riggers, or hydros. Still confused.....

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      • tbonemcniel
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2020
        • 296

        #4
        The length's are maximum lengths. So a 34" boat can run in P, Q, S, or T, but not N2. A 40" boat can run in Q, S, or T, but not P or N2. That being said, it's not very common to run a smaller boat in the bigger classes from what I've seen. Running say a 31" boat, appropriately sized for P classes, can be tough in Q or T against much bigger boats up to 40" or 60" in length.

        The voltage's there are minimum's and maximums. P boats are 3-4S LiPO, Q's are 5-6S LiPo, etc.

        So to answer your original question:
        1) Zipp kits 33FE rigger - P-Limited or P Outrigger Hydroplane (technically qualifies for Q/S/T Outrigger Hydroplane as well if on appropriate voltage, but may not be competitive)
        2) Insane Boats FE30 sport hydro - P-Limited or P Sport Hydroplane (technically qualifies for Q/S/T Sport Hydroplane as well if on appropriate voltage, but may not be competitive)
        3) Zipp kits G30 tunnel - P-Limited or P Tunnel (technically qualifies for Q/S/T Sport Tunnel as well if on appropriate voltage, but may not be competitive)


        Last edited by tbonemcniel; 08-09-2022, 01:14 PM.

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        • oscarel
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Dec 2009
          • 2121

          #5
          Originally posted by Timothy L
          Thank you Larry -
          So the rigger hull style can be raced in P-limited or P as long as the motor size, number of cells, and length are within class limits (on rule pages 28-5 and 28-7)? I don't see anything on those electric pages which distinguish between mono hulls, riggers, or hydros. Still confused.....

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          • tbonemcniel
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2020
            • 296

            #6
            Section 11 pages 1-2 breaks down general hull types, both gas and electric.

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            • Timothy L
              Member
              • Jun 2021
              • 45

              #7
              Tbone -
              This is a great help. Thank you. On Sec 28, page 1, there is no mention of hull shapes. In Sec 11 it describes the 2 basic hull shapes. Riggers are thus defined as hydroplanes. Can a P-limited rigger, theoretically, race against a P-limited mono? Or are boats always first separated by hull type and then secondly separated by power specs and length? Thank you for your patience with my questions.

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              • oscarel
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Dec 2009
                • 2121

                #8
                Different areas offer different classes. For instance, we sometimes will do "offshore" which allows mono/cats to race together. Some offer "open" which allows any hull type. Most offer classes based on hull type followed by power. As an example, you'd see something like this for race entry:

                Saturday Classes Offered:
                A Mono
                A Stock OPC
                B Hydro / Sport 40 II
                G-Limited Mono
                G-Limited Crackerbox
                GX2 Catamaran
                GX2 Mono
                GX2 Sport Hydro
                P Mono
                P Sport Hydro
                P-Limited OPC
                Open Tunnel
                Q-Mono/Cat

                Sunday Classes Offered:
                A Hydro
                A Superstock OPC
                Classic Thunderboat
                G-Limited Sport Hydro
                GX1 Mono
                GX1 Catamaran
                GX1 Sport Hydro
                GX2 Outrigger
                P-Limited Catamaran
                P-Limited Mono
                P Rigger
                P-Limited Offshore

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                • tbonemcniel
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2020
                  • 296

                  #9
                  Normally, every class is run with it's own hull type. Monos race monos, cats race cats, hydros race hydros, etc.

                  However, in the event of low attendance, in order to fill classes, all hulls can race UP a class all the way to hydro, but not rigger, and no classes can race down. So at race, if you have 1 mono, 1 cat, and 3 hydros, the mono and cat can choose to compete in hydro with those 3 hydros, but the hydros cannot choose to compete in cat or mono. Riggers are their own thing. That's the way I understand it. Although I don't find that in the rulebook, only what I've heard/read. So it may vary club to club.

                  Mono
                  Tunnel
                  Cat
                  Hydro
                  Rigger


                  In my club, if there's not enough participants to fill each we often combine monos and cats into an "Offshore" race. We do this with P-Limited, Q, and T often. There's always enough P's for each class to make. Technically, offshore would be offshore style deep vee mono's and cats only, on an offshore course, but we just call it "Offshore", even if it technically isn't. We have never had the need to my knowledge to race monos and cats against hydros.

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                  • oscarel
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2121

                    #10
                    And as another example, at the NAMBA Nationals this year they're offering an OPEN FE class. Any NAMBA legal electic boat/power can run together.

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                    • Timothy L
                      Member
                      • Jun 2021
                      • 45

                      #11
                      Tbone and Oscar -
                      Yay!!! I finally get it. You guys were really a great help. I very much appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions and clarify this for me. I'm no longer confused Lol!
                      Tim

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