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Guys and gals.. Nothing is set in stone yet..there will be lots of discussion between now and after this years fe nats in Washington..but it will be a combined nationals for 2017..no one has said it will only be 2 days..and yes it will be in Las Vegas.. There are tons of things to discuss on classes..and who knows what rules will be new and or classes..for now we should be focusing on this years fe nationals in Washington..I will be there racing and making lots of observations.. Hope to see all of you there.. If you haven't signed up yet please do asap..
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Curious. Is anyone surprised by this? Numbers are numbers. The last big FE nats was 2005 really. Since then I think the biggest race was maybe 39 racers or so. Something like that. Even calling it a nationals pissed some guys off. Any trying to win high points at a nationals pushed those same guys to the edge of sanity.
I do wonder how a mixed nats would be received. Will FE guys travel for it? What would the schedule look like? That kind of thing. Will it be a gas marathon and then do an FE marathon or a mix every day? If there are 2 FE classes a day for 8 days that might be a drag. Sure would make far an easy pace as a racer. If they did one fuel type then the other fuel type you wouldn't have to be there all 8 days. Cuts the cost of attending down a ton. I just don't have a point of reference in my head for it.
One thing is for certain. Clubs like MMEU that have never run a fuel race wont be hosting a mixed nats. We wouldn't even know where to start. So a NATS in D2 wont happen unless another club is formed. This being IMPBA country that has well established clubs makes that highly unlikely.Noisy personComment
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Jay, I think he's just referring to the local D8 events. Presently, they invited the FE guys to come out for two slots... P-LTD OPC Tunnel and P-LTD Hydro. Traditionally, Nitro/Gas race weekends are two-day events, though, this year, participation is so low that they've dropped them back down to just one.
This doesn't have anything to do with a combined NATs, just what they've done locally regarding being "combined" events. They also allow "Open" Hydros to mix it up.Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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Couldn't resist, could you?
Sounds to me like this is more than just a rumor... rayzerdesigns post isn't the first time I've heard mention of this.
Of course, when you attend events where the actual NAMBA leadership is attending as well, you tend to hear discussions.Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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Some of us talked about this possibility back in 2014. It comes down to the numbers as I mentioned. I don't know of any NAMBA members that are all up in arms about it.
Not sure why we would do the NAMBA vs IMPBA thing. IMPBA hasn't had an FE nats since I've been racing. Not sure if it was a no demand thing or if it was just that nobody wanted to do it. So guys should leave an organization to punish leadership in favor of an organization that's historically been less dedicated to their little niche? Silly. Anyways, both organizations have grown. It's a controversy that doesn't exist in 2016. There's little difference between the organizations when it comes right down to heats and racing. I know many racers that are members of both organizations too. It's the same people at both brands of events. The IMPBA President, VP and Records Chair have all been to our Cup races just to hang out with more race monkeys.
Folks can try to stir that pot but it's empty as far as I'm concerned.Noisy personComment
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wow, guess I would hate going to the nationals with nitro and electric at the same event.....nothing worse than ear shattering nitro boats and that toxic smelling fuel. Gas is another thing completely different.
Not trying to mess with the pot, I just would not enjoy it. A time trial is okay with just one running.Comment
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It may be a good thing, A blessing in disguise. In my district we did not have big turnouts for Nitro, the six or seven gas classes did not have enough to run alone. FE was too small to make it in it own. With the classes mixed classes ( that is gas running with gas only) we started with about 60 to 75 boats running the different classes. at first and about 25 drivers, Gas made up 48% nitro 25% and FE 27%. Then in time we started to get more drivers we had 50 drivers and 130 boats with it being 33% each.Comment
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Evolution. I'm with ya Randy. We all need to get over ourselves (and I think most have). Each fuel source has it's merit. We all have a common bond. Fools with toy boats.Noisy personComment
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Trust me when I say it's not a rumor.. I will be helping Russ put schedule together.. It won't be s mix each day.. Fe more than likely will be first couple of days.. Agsin trying to get numbers up.. Maybe those that race gas and it nitro that have fe boats will bring them out to race.. Again.. This is not s rumor.. See ya guys in Washington.. If you have questions or maybe suggestions feel free to pm me.. Or even post here.. This will be a first.. And we want to make it right..Comment
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Don't forget.. It's Vegas!!!Comment
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Vegas each year? You won't see me complaining!Comment
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I have been attending mixed races for 10 years. Where have you guys been? It's always a good thing to blend the 3 energy sources. More guys. More Competition. MORE FUN.Comment
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The more I think on it the more I think it must be separate days. Has to be for it to work.
Drive'n think'n. Hour commute. Sorry. Isn't the gas Nat's 8 days? Let's say we get a low FE turnout and only get 3 days worth of boats. 8 + 3=8?Noisy personComment
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