Conquest 43" twin CC 1717 6s4p First Run

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  • millzee
    Ozzie Bloke
    • Nov 2010
    • 1092

    #16
    thanks guy's, I think I might have to pinch this paralleled esc set up, I like the idea of disconnecting all the babberies with just the one connector.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
    "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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    • riptide1
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 241

      #17
      I'll leave the SAW record chasing to the pros
      Originally posted by rearwheelin
      Now you just need to buy another Ice esc and throw some good 4s packs in to series up 8s 2p for a total of no more than 12000mah and get a good pair of 3 blade props and go SAW racing ! You can take S or T offshore for the record ! Easily....
      Last edited by riptide1; 05-17-2011, 10:19 AM.

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      • Brushless55
        Creator
        • Oct 2008
        • 9488

        #18
        Ok, I think I'm following now!
        snap a picture if you can, so I can clear my head on this one a little more
        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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        • riptide1
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 241

          #19
          Go for it ..it seems to work good at delivering equal juice ...the boat runs straight as a arrow.
          Originally posted by millzee
          thanks guy's, I think I might have to pinch this paralleled esc set up, I like the idea of disconnecting all the babberies with just the one connector.

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          • riptide1
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 241

            #20
            There are just two harnesses one positive and one negative consisting of: 1 bullet with 4 wires soldered together behind it with each wire going to a same polarity battery lead on each 6s pack
            Originally posted by Brushless55
            Ok, I think I'm following now!
            snap a picture if you can, so I can clear my head on this one a little more

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            • rearwheelin
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2008
              • 1941

              #21
              I just looked hard at you parellel set up... Caught a potential performance robber ! The way you have paralleled all of your power threw 2 bullets is going to take away from your C rating and will cause your caps too work overtime ! Your motors will potentially draw way more than what a single + &- bullet will deliver to 2 motors ! I would definatlly change that, you want to deliver full C rating especially when eccelerating and when using bigger props. You will run cooler and you will gain efficiancy and speed too ! I appoligize if I missunderstood the way you explained how you were going to parrellel to me or if that is how I described too you the way I parrelleled.....I did it that way trackside at LA SAW so I could power 4 motors with 2 packs just so the quad could be legal to run....I would definatlly change that Brian for performance resonses.....

              That is a single bullet for + & - or is it one of those -+ double conecters used for double positive and one for double - ?
              "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
              --Albert Einstein

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              • riptide1
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 241

                #22
                I should double up the bullet connectors ... 8mm will probably flow 250a continuous, so four of those ought to be sufficient power delivery. You know what really has me thinking is how to wire in a data acquisition device like the eagle tree v4 150amp ...I would only get one of them, and I'm thinking of abandoning the esc parallel and choosing a side to drop in the eagle tree device...it goes in-between the battery leads and the esc. Any suggestions?

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                • rearwheelin
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1941

                  #23
                  Yes 4 bullets into the esc's. 2 packs parrelleled into 2 bullets each esc with 2 8mm bullets and run a jumper wire conecting - & +'s on the esc side to parrellel everything( can probably use smaller guage wire for this, 12g should do)....I am not sure of the amp logger. Is it passive or does all current going to to esc have to pass threw it ?
                  "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
                  --Albert Einstein

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                  • millzee
                    Ozzie Bloke
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1092

                    #24
                    well, you guy's lost me. Once you get it sorted, could you please post a couple of pic's.
                    http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                    "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                    • rearwheelin
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1941

                      #25
                      Wiering diagram

                      Like this....
                      Attached Files
                      "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
                      --Albert Einstein

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                      • riptide1
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 241

                        #26
                        Randy thanks for the pic ...that seems like a good design ....I will leave it setup the way it is for a few more runs because the performance seemed to be there already ...I just need to run it harder. If I notice the caps getting real hot or bulging, or the connectors in question getting warm I will change it. The Eagle Tree logger is active in that all current must flow through it, in from the battery and out to the motor. I have read where people are using it in systems that are running more than 150amps continous but I know that hooking it up to this system between the batteries and the two paralleled escs would be way over 150amps ...my guess would be around 250amps continous at times. Millzee, I am definitely a newbie trying to get things worked out ...mostly through trial and error....I'm even trying to work my own props, sanding and balancing...but that's a whole other discussion I figure that I'm less than a month away from a video featuring my Conquest drag racing the Sniper 0-60mph that is my ultimate goal
                        Originally posted by rearwheelin
                        Like this....
                        Last edited by riptide1; 05-17-2011, 10:45 AM.

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                        • rearwheelin
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1941

                          #27
                          Originally posted by riptide1
                          Randy thanks for the pic ...that seems like a good design ....I will leave it setup the way it is for a few more runs because the performance seemed to be there already ...I just need to run it harder. If I notice the caps getting real hot or bulging, or the connectors in question getting warm I will change it. The Eagle Tree logger is active in that all current must flow through it, in from the battery and out to the motor. I have read where people are using it in systems that are running more than 150amps continous but I know that hooking it up to this system between the batteries and the two paralleled escs would be way over 150amps ...my guess would be around 250amps continous at times. Millzee, I am definitely a newbie trying to get things worked out ...mostly through trial and error....I'm even trying to work my own props, sanding and balancing...but that's a whole other discussion I figure that I'm less than a month away from a video featuring my Conquest drag racing the Sniper 0-60mph that is my ultimate goal
                          That conquest is going to show the sniper what time it is !!!.......
                          "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
                          --Albert Einstein

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #28
                            Originally posted by riptide1
                            Randy thanks for the pic ...that seems like a good design ....I will leave it setup the way it is for a few more runs because the performance seemed to be there already ...I just need to run it harder. If I notice the caps getting real hot or bulging, or the connectors in question getting warm I will change it. The Eagle Tree logger is active in that all current must flow through it, in from the battery and out to the motor. I have read where people are using it in systems that are running more than 150amps continous but I know that hooking it up to this system between the batteries and the two paralleled escs would be way over 150amps ...my guess would be around 250amps continous at times. Millzee, I am definitely a newbie trying to get things worked out ...mostly through trial and error....I'm even trying to work my own props, sanding and balancing...but that's a whole other discussion I figure that I'm less than a month away from a video featuring my Conquest drag racing the Sniper 0-60mph that is my ultimate goal
                            do you know what your runtimes are?
                            I'm going to guess about 75-85amps cont. per side for a total of 150-170amps cont.
                            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                            • riptide1
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 241

                              #29
                              The runtime is 7mins ...the batteries used a little over 4000mah each so 16000mah total....thats and average of 137amps ...I have never looked at a log chart of amps over time for a boat ....what do you think the motors are pulling under heavy load?
                              Originally posted by Brushless55
                              do you know what your runtimes are?
                              I'm going to guess about 75-85amps cont. per side for a total of 150-170amps cont.

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                              • Brushless55
                                Creator
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 9488

                                #30
                                Originally posted by riptide1
                                The runtime is 7mins ...the batteries used a little over 4000mah each so 16000mah total....thats and average of 137amps ...I have never looked at a log chart of amps over time for a boat ....what do you think the motors are pulling under heavy load?
                                hey I was close!
                                I would guess twice what your average is for the peaks
                                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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