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  • Diesel6401
    Memento Vivere
    • Oct 2009
    • 4204

    #16
    Anyone got 21K I can borrow click the for sale link




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    • AndyKunz
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2008
      • 1437

      #17
      Originally posted by blackcat26
      No more sharpening and balancing props! Woo Hoo!
      It's still propelled by props - they're just driven by the PTO from a turbine. With the speed it can spin them, I think balancing would be even MORE important.

      Andy
      Spektrum Development Team

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      • befu
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 980

        #18
        Still wondering what kind of thrust to weight ratio this thing has. That turbine thrust works much better than I thought it would. Tried to find some info the other night, but it is hard to nail down which turbine pushes how hard. From what I saw, 15 to 20 lbs of thrust is in the range.

        what does that cat weigh in at? I am thinking a fun boat plus recovery craft, just on a smaller scale.

        One the note of $21k, no thanks. I could buy a decent used boat for that much and actually ride in it. Or add to my $200 stamp collection.....

        Brian

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        • AndyKunz
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2008
          • 1437

          #19
          They don't run on thrust. The exhaust goes vertical. The engines have use a PTO and gearbox to extract the power and drive a regular prop.

          Andy
          Spektrum Development Team

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          • Rumdog
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Mar 2009
            • 6453

            #20
            did you watch the vid, Andy? The thrust clearly isn't going vert.
            Last edited by Rumdog; 11-03-2010, 07:53 PM.

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            • blackcat26
              High Speed Junkie
              • Sep 2009
              • 1598

              #21
              Yeah man. Look at the video with the jet on top, not mounted inside the boat. Puts out some pretty impressive thrust for an airboat!
              FE BOATING: Less like a hobby and more like an addiction!

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              • befu
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 980

                #22
                OK, an unrelated question then.

                OK, I get it. They run off of a PTO to a water prop. That is fine.

                But on a purely unrelated topic, does anyone know what kind of thrust that motor would produce in that boat if it was just using thrust to drive the boat? And what kind of estimate that boat might weigh in at with a turbine if it was set up to use thrust to drive it as opposed to the PTO driven water prop?

                Thank you for any who can answer my unrelated question.

                Brian

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                • ron1950
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 3024

                  #23
                  if i was to put 21k into a boat its going to have a seat for my fat but to sit in while i drive it....
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                  • Brushless55
                    Creator
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9488

                    #24
                    Originally posted by AndyKunz
                    They don't run on thrust. The exhaust goes vertical. The engines have use a PTO and gearbox to extract the power and drive a regular prop.

                    Andy
                    The boat posted in the video does run of thrust
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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #25
                      Originally posted by befu
                      Still wondering what kind of thrust to weight ratio this thing has. That turbine thrust works much better than I thought it would. Tried to find some info the other night, but it is hard to nail down which turbine pushes how hard. From what I saw, 15 to 20 lbs of thrust is in the range.

                      what does that cat weigh in at? I am thinking a fun boat plus recovery craft, just on a smaller scale.

                      One the note of $21k, no thanks. I could buy a decent used boat for that much and actually ride in it. Or add to my $200 stamp collection.....

                      Brian
                      Like the boat in the video that uses thrust to move it, I've seen claims of 25lbs of thrust from a small motor like this
                      and they cost $2,500 on up
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                      • befu
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 980

                        #26
                        Thank you

                        thank you brushless. So I would guess a cat like that and a turbine would probably weigh in at 25 lbs or more. so maybe a thrust to weight ratio of 1:1 to 2:3?

                        I will have to ask around on another forum and see if anyone knows what some of the prop driven airboats do.

                        I am thinking of a retrieval craft powered by a fan that has enough power to get itself into trouble when not rescuing other boats!

                        Hmm......

                        Brian

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #27
                          the motor are fairly light, so I don't know what the total weight of a 50-60" cat with one turbine would be like
                          but the RC jets do weight a lot and they do hit 200mph+
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                          • AndyKunz
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1437

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Brushless55
                            The boat posted in the video does run of thrust
                            Why are they exhausting it vertically out of the deck? Look at the very first picture in Diesel's post.

                            Andy
                            Spektrum Development Team

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                            • Rumdog
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 6453

                              #29
                              We are refering to post #1.

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                              • Brushless55
                                Creator
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 9488

                                #30
                                Originally posted by AndyKunz
                                Why are they exhausting it vertically out of the deck? Look at the very first picture in Diesel's post.

                                Andy
                                THE OP
                                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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